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    Alright boys and girls,

    As you know I've moved to China as part of a work placement for a couple of years. I was meaning to start a kind of live journal about the whole experience but rela life got in the way, as with so many things I'm trying to do at the moment. This will just be to drop photos in and chat whenever I do something interesting or note worthy (for example, I've booked a trip to North Korea for 5 days in August - something that you can only really do with a Chinese residency permit and visa so yeah).

    It probably won't be updated regularly, but it's a thread for me to tell stories when and if they happen. I've got WC to work now (oh dear) so we'll see where it takes me. A bit about some stuff, the good and the bad so far:

    The Food

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    Listen fellas, I'm a big guy, I'm 6'2 and I fill that height and then some, and you've never seen anything like the feasts you get over here. Seriously, the amount they eat is infuckingcredible. How are they all so small? It ain't the same as Chinese food in the western world that's for sure (I haven't seen a Sweet and Sour Chicken Ball anywhere), but the MSG is still there, and it goes straight to your hips ladies.

    The speciality dish of Beijing is Peking Duck (obviously, seeing as Beijing used to be called Beijing and about 10 other things), but it's different to the crispy aromatic pancake stuff you get in England. It's moist and fatty with a crispy skin, served with popping candy, spring onions, rich hoi sin sauce all rolled in a thin pancake and munched.



    Other favourites include Szechuan Hotpot (basically a giant bubbling spiced broth where you boil fresh strips of lamb and beef and veggies and is the nicest thing ever), Jiaozi (basically pork filled dimsum dipped in chilli vinegar and garlic. yeah) and Asian BBQ (basically DIY BBQ with your own flame pit in the table)



    They do certainly eat some weird things though, and no not dog, that's Korea. I've had deep fried chicken feet, pigs brains, jellyfish, sheep intenstine (actually incredible, don't ask), sea cucumber, bacon wrapped baby duckling (I mean like a full baby duck head and everything, in the shape of a duck), scorpion, centipede, mouse...... I'll try anything once, but most of these were totally fucking gross.



    Lifestyle

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    Chinese people love westerners. I shit you not, we are treated so damn well here. I've had men put their umbrella over my head when it rained at their own expense, I've had taxi drivers offer me lifts for free, most bars you go to give you free drinks if you know how to handle it right and be polite, they just want us to respect their country and it's people. A lot of it comes down to the fact that our media likes to regularly shit on China and it's achievements because, quite frankly, they don't speak English and are a little eccentric (from a western standpoint), but they're light years ahead of us in many aspects.

    No-one here pays for anything with cards or cash it's all mobile transactions, the public transport is pristine and always running on time despite the heaviest workloads of all, everything is reasonably taxed in proportion to demand (no needless 9 pound packs of fags when they cost 40p to make).. and there is no crime. I cannot stress this enough, not even drugs, literally no crime. I dunno if that's fear of the government or what not, but i've never felt safer in an environment in my life. Everyone is just.. happy? There's 1.4 billion of these dudes (around double the population of the USA and the entire of Europe combined), they will 100% take over the world if they ever learn English and can be bothered. I don't mean military wise, but tech and innovation is a huge drive over here and the phrase 'Designed in China not Made in China' is echoed everywhere.

    Honest to god, when it's good weather, it is a gorgeous country and almost unrivalled when it comes to stuff to see. Take the Great Wall for example.


    This is exactly how it looks when you visit as well

    Oh yeah, just the casual 13,170.7 mile wall ey chaps? I mean jesus christ 13,000 miles long at its pomp, (bear in mind the circumference of the earth is 24,000 miles) and built around 300BC. To top it off, to get there I had to take 2 cable cars and walk like 400 steps up the side of a mountain. God knows how many slaves must have died building that thing back then, but it's seriously the most impressive thing mankind has ever done in terms of time context - I'm 100% sure about that. Never seen anything like it.

    Sounds as if I'm working for the tourist board, but seriously, it's great. On the other hand...



    Pollution
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    It really is no joke, and impossible to comprehend until you actually visit. The picture above was taken by a local photographer 1 week apart in October. That is the level of contrast you can get in such a short time period. What it actually is is something called PM2.5 pollution, which means particles under 2.5 microns in width, and as such can only really be seen using an electron microscope.... until they're gathered together in these vast quantities to produce basically toxic fog. And a lot of it.

    For reference, London has an average PM2.5 reading of around 25-40, New York is about 60, Chicago's around 35-40. Over the Xmas period, Beijing had it's 8th consecutive day over 600, and has now dropped to a balmy 220.

    This is the reason why the 3M smog mask has been so synonymous with Chinese culture over recent years, and the Chinese people are totally fed up with it. So far the Chinese government's solution so far has been to:

    A) create their own scale of measurement seperate to the World Health Organization global scale which is basically the Celcius to Fahrenheit of pollution to mask the problem.
    B) Limit the most popular measurement app in the country to topping out at 500 and showing '>500' instead of the actual value
    C) Just don't talk about it and hope the people ignore it.

    Here's an idea, why take that 573k a week you want to pay Diego Costa to move here from Chelsea or the 50million quid you spent to get Oscar, and try to do something about it? It literally looks like this outside of high rise office window:



    (Actually, I must say that as of writing this message, news has broken that China plans to scrap the construction of 85 planned coal power plants and invest 2.5 trillion yuan into the renewable energy sector, so that's nice)



    The Internet

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    The politics of China is essentially a socialist republic run by a single entity, The Communist Party of China, and they run the entire show. As a westerner, it's a very big change to accept coming from the democratic nature of the UK, and it's taken some getting used to. Things like the extremely strict Visa and Immigration process, applying for social security and residency permits, protection over what you say or communicate over the phone or via text when using a Chinese phone, it's all just.... strange to me.

    The worst bit by far is the regulations on the internet. Here are the blocked sites in China:

    - Facebook
    - Google (including Maps which fucking kills me)
    - The Economist
    - TIME
    - Vimeo
    - Netflix
    - Bloomberg
    - Every porn site you can imagine
    - Dropbox
    - Soundcloud
    - Instagram
    - The NY Times
    - Twitter
    - DailyMotion
    - YouTube

    and that's just the ones I can think of. This is killing my soul slowly but surely, if they took away Tapatalk and Whatsapp I may have actually died. They've recently reinstated Snapchat which is nice though.

    From what I've heard, the reasoning behind it is not so much propoganda but rather control of news sources. For example, I'm nervous about posting this stuff for fear of a ban for even a tiny miniscule site like WC. I tell you what, you don't quite realise how much you miss facebook and your google login until it's gone and you can't get into anything, no gmail? tough. VPN's will work fine for a laptop, but on the move, it's really not an option.

    IP protection is vital in my industry (in fact one of the main drivers behind me coming to China in the first place), and while China has made a lot of strides in anti corruption and protection of intellectual property, there's still a long way to go. Everything we do at my company is encrypted, but even then there's an air of 'I don't know who's reading this'.

    However, you do have to argue that the people are extremely happy and are largely supportive. It is, after all, the most capitalist country I've ever seen in my life, consumer goods are king and it's all about status symbol over here. It begs the question, censorship is bad, but is happiness not the be all and end all?



    anyway, that's a little bit about my time here so far. I'll post more when I do cool stuff, for example I'm off to Hong Kong in Feb and have just got me a season ticket to Beijing Guoan so hopefully we bag Payet.

    Feel free to ask me anything below. Before you ask, no Tinder doesn't work without a VPN, but when you get it to work it's fucking magical.

    再见了,谢谢你读
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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    Do you gotta watch what you say in public or just social media?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping Death View Post
    Do you gotta watch what you say in public or just social media?
    Not many native Beijingers can speak English, and the ones I know who do aren't really bothered about Facebook and Google because, to be frank, they have their own versions of them in WeChat, QQ and Baidu. And tbh, I think they're actually easier and more user friendly.

    Consider the populace thing, Facebook had 1.79 billion active users in 2016 (God knows how many fake accounts) China alone has 1.3 billion people. Plenty of money to be made here without the need for it.

    In terms of the politics, not really. Mostly because there's not much to complain about just yet. The laws against protest and religious freedoms are quite well known with some very very well known incidents recently, so it's strictly forbidden. I definitely wouldn't go preaching 'the western way is best around', but id be comfortable voicing an opinion to someone, especially around my own age
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    I definitely wouldn't go preaching 'the western way is best around', but id be comfortable voicing an opinion to someone, especially around my own age
    Neither would I but I'd just be paranoid that I'd drunkenly say something and somehow it'd get back to someone important without a sense of humor and I'd be fizucked. Speaking of drunkenly talking shit, how's the beer/liquor there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping Death View Post
    Neither would I but I'd just be paranoid that I'd drunkenly say something and somehow it'd get back to someone important without a sense of humor and I'd be fizucked. Speaking of drunkenly talking shit, how's the beer/liquor there?
    It's either totally fake and cheap as chips or totally real and expensive.

    if I was gunna compare I'd say it's just normal Big City prices. £5 a pint of import lager, £7 for a fancy cocktail. The best bit is it's totally legal and not even frowned upon to go to a supermarket, buy a 6 pack and go sit outside a bar with it. So that's grand.

    If anyone's had Tsingtao that's like the Bud/Carling of China, except considerably nicer than both.

    Whiskey and Scotch is the import spirit of choice, I think just because they associate it with high rolling foreigners. The local spirit is Baiju and it's by far the most disgusting spirit I've ever tasted. Drank a hip flask full for my birthday and was sick down an alleyway just last week, salad days
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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    So with all those sites banned, what do you actually do on the internet now?

    Find the whole political landscape fascinating when reading. The pollution sucks though.



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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    Really interesting read Nash, one question , like you said as one of the most advanced contries in the world do you reckon they should be doing much more to reduce the pollution? Or are you content enough they are doing enough and it will take time?

    I'll take a stab in the dark and say it isn't a walk in the park with that population.

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    Nice post Nash lad. Tell us about your Asian love life though pls.

    And he scores goals...!




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    Quote Originally Posted by PS View Post
    Nice post Nash lad. Tell us about your Asian love life though pls.
    That was my second question.

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    How's your mandarin coming along?

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    Why are you going to North Korea?

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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    Interesting read Nash, sounds like a completely different life to back here. I couldn't cope with all them sites blocked

    Also the pollution sounds terrible as well. Intrigued to see what you think of North Korea!

    You should check if Grindr is blocked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    So with all those sites banned, what do you actually do on the internet now?
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    Put it this way, it's a lot of Football Manager, a lot of FIFA and a lot of streaming shows using the more nefarious putlocker-esque sites out there. I watched the entirity of GoT in like 2 weeks, watched Stranger Things over the course of a weekend, watched the whole of Brooklyn 99 in the space of like 6 days - that sort of thing. I try to keep myself active at night, but I recently splurged on a 27" 4K Retina iMac which basically doubles up as a TV. It's also worth noting that watching the football is a pain in the arse. 3pm games are 11pm for me, 5.30 games are 1.30am - so either I stay in on a Saturday night or I'm not watching any football unless the 12.30 game is especially good. Champions League and MNF's are out the question unless it's a holiday. It's the strangest feeling going out drinking and clubbing till 3.30am and then ending in a pub to watch the football



    Quote Originally Posted by Kert View Post
    Really interesting read Nash, one question , like you said as one of the most advanced contries in the world do you reckon they should be doing much more to reduce the pollution? Or are you content enough they are doing enough and it will take time?
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    They aren't doing enough, that's a fact. However, I feel like they don't actually know what to do about it rather than any maliciousness behind it. Noone I speak to even has a real clear view on where it comes from. If you've heard of the famous '9 million bicycles in Beijing' statement (god bless Katie Melua), that just isn't true anymore. Everyone has cars, everyone has scooters, the number of petrol vehicles in the city has more than tripled in the last 5 years as more wealth pours into the city (Beijing is now apparently the richest city in the world, depending on what metric you use)

    The government is trying its best. It cost less than 30p to ride the subway to anywhere in the entire city - compare that to the frankly ridiculous price of the tube in London - and the 'Boris Bike' system they have is tremendous, park them anywhere (none of those stupid bay things) and unlock with a phone and it's 8p a journey. They have also banned certain numberplates from driving on certain days, I think it's ones ending in A-M can drive inner city on Monday Wednesday Friday and so on. It's also a 'lottery system' for who can drive, not everyone has a permit to drive in Beijing. However, the ones that don't have a permit just drive scooters so it's pretty pointless.

    It also makes me laugh, because whenever they have a massive event like a G20 summit, they just flat out ban every industry from manufacturing to give the illusion of clean air for foreign nationals. For someone working in tech like me, it's a pain in the arse to get mechanical parts or chemical processing done on time, but what they say goes, and if they say your factory isn't running, it isn't running.

    You can't say they aren't trying, but it's not working. I have no idea what the solution is, but this is by far the thing that pisses the Chinese locals off the most. Their kids are the most important thing in the world to them (even more so after the one child policy years), and they don't want them growing up inhaling shit every day.



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    Nice post Nash lad. Tell us about your Asian love life though pls.
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    There's 2 main apps I use - Tinder and TanTan. Tinder I use with a VPN because it requires a facebook login, and TanTan is basically the Chinese version of Tinder.

    I'll be honest, Tinder has been a godsend over here. I know I used to joke about being on it a lot, but I genuinely wouldn't have survived over here without it - most of my main friend groups have started through a Tinder connection. I've been on around 8 different 'dates' in like 6 months, but a couple of them weren't dates so much as 'hey me and a load of mates are going to this bar opening, I know you haven't got anything to do so if you fancy tagging along I'll introduce you to some people'. It's not so much dating as it is socializing over here.

    However, to answer the question, I'm not gunna lie it's pretty awesome being a white guy in this city in that respect. In a very general sense, it's weird, Chinese boys want Western girls, Western girls don't like Chinese boys and want Western boys, Western boys usually want to bed Asian girls, and Asian girls all fawn over Western boys. That leaves the Western girls in a bit of a quandry, because they kind of feel left to the side. I personally have never been that bothered about Asian girls, I've got more of a thing for American girls, so it's been great for me.

    Before I moved here, I was determined to throw myself out there a lot more. I'm usually all chat and no actual real action when it comes to Tinder (you may have noticed this trend on WC....). In terms of actual dates, I've been out with a girl from LA, a girl from Long Beach, 3 Chinese girls, an Irish girl and 2 Brits. One of the Brits and one of the Chinese girls became pretty much my best mates, and I scored with the 2 American girls and one of the Chinese girls and I had a ONS with a different Chinese girl about a week after I got here. I'm not exactly Leo Di Caprio, it's by far the best I've ever done with women in my entire life, but it's also knackering on the bank balance and just knackering in general.

    I've been speaking to a Scottish girl recently who has actually got the best chat I've ever seen from a girl on Tinder. Very promising. She has blue hair and likes art though which makes me worry about the growing threat of traveller hipsterism. 'Broooo you should totally go on a spiritual journey to camboooodia, it really opens your eyes maaaan' is not my kind of shit at all. I like her so far, she returns back to Beijing on the 27th so watch this space.



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    How's your mandarin coming along?
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    As part of my expat contract, I get 100 hours of 1 on 1 Mandarin tutoring per annum. It. Is. Fucking. Impossible. I have no head for languages anyway, I'm a maths and sciences type of guy. Soooo obviously China's fucking huge, they have many different dialects when it comes to 'Mandarin', much like our different accents, but they also have 2 main languages - Chinese (simplified) and Chinese (traditional). Traditional is basically Cantonese and is spoken in Szechuan provinces and Hong Kong, Simplified is the language that Western people think of when they think of Chinese. Fortunately for me, the Mandarin spoken in Beijing is the purest form of Mandarin, making it slightly easier to learn. Slightly.

    To make it worse, they have 4 'tones' in their language, so each word said in a different tone can mean a different thing. 1st one is - (flat), 2nd is / (raised at the end), 3rd is V (down and up like oooouhh), 4th ` which is like a hard direct sound like a general giving an order. Take the word 'Shi' - 1st tone sounds like shuuh, 2nd tone sounds like sherrr, 3rd is sherrrooh. 4th is kinda like Shu. Hard to explain.

    This is a famous tongue twister in Mandarin which shows the range of meanings for a word depending on tones:

    Shi si shi shi si, si shi shi si shi, shi si bu shi si shi, si shi bu shi shi si
    (14 is 14, 40 is 40, 14 is not 40, 40 is not 14)

    So far, I've had about 22 hours of lessons, and I can do the basics. I can say 'Turn left, turn right, straight on, I'm here, U turn, please take me home etc' to taxi drivers, I know all the numbers, I can introduce myself and say when I came to Beijing, what my job is, where I work etc. Very basic. However, as soon as a Chinese person talks to me, it's game over. They speak so bloody fast.

    My goal is to hold a decent conversation with a Chinese person by the time I'm done here, but it's meant to take 400 hours to properly properly master it. Wish me luck



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    Why are you going to North Korea?
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    I mean, it's a very good question. The story is, one of my best friends from Somerset(UK) moved to Hong Kong at almost the same time I moved out here, and really wants to go. I was a bit morally on the fence - it's a bit like saying heyyyyyy let's go visit Nazi Germany in the 1940's just to have a look aroun plus I don't particularly like the idea of giving the North Korean government 500 quid, but my curiousity got the best of me.

    This is the tour I will be going on: http://www.lupinetravel.co.uk/north-...gust-2017.html

    To summarise:
    - 14 hour train ride from Beijing to Dandong, 2 hours in customs where I'm presumably grilled about my motivations for visitng, then on to Pyongyang. Get to the hotel for dinner and evening activities, including a visit to a microbrewery, karoake and pool. Right.
    - Day 2 is A tour around Pyongyang on Liberation Day (when North Korea got liberated from Japan), guided tour around sights like the Korean war museum and Kim Jong Il Plaza, then join in the festivites such as the Mass Dance Of the People, which is apparently a massive tradition that we get to join, see some fireworks etc. It's basically the 3rd biggest national holiday.
    - Day 3 we tour the Demilitarized Zone, which is known as one of the most dangerous places on Earth, and learn about the history of North vs South Korea from a few military personnel stationed there. If there's no SKoreans there we can straddle the border. Then a visit to the newly constructed giant bronze statue of Kim Jong Il and a few tombs and museums, then a meal at 'Duck BBQ' No1 restaurant in Pyongyang! and a chance to buy souveniors.
    - Day 4 we go up a giant mountain for some nature, and then we visit the International Friendship Exhibition Hall, a huge complex consisting of over 100,000 gifts given by various world leaders and figures to Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il including two trains given to Kim Il Sung by Chairman Mao and Joseph Stalin. Evening is a performance by local kids so that should be cool.
    - Day 5 is a bit more sight seeing then a 14 hour train home again.

    Yeah, should be interesting. I need to be on my best behaviour though, none of you have ever met me but my voice travels like a bitch and I'm not exactly inconspicuous. Not gunna lie I'm bricking it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    Truthfully Duke I probably did a boner at times. I took School after I was held back in the 3rd Grade seriously maybe too seriously at times. I wished I would of enjoyed it a bit more. I think my path is still being made to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Order View Post
    Interesting read Nash, sounds like a completely different life to back here. I couldn't cope with all them sites blocked

    Also the pollution sounds terrible as well. Intrigued to see what you think of North Korea!

    You should check if Grindr is blocked...
    I just asked my gay pal, Grindr's ok?!!? I'm absolutely shocked.

    Homosexuality is actually quite prevalent in Chinese culture, I've been to a couple of the gay bars here with my friend on a night, and they are absolutely chokka full of people. Ever since it was removed from the Chinese governmental list of mental illnesses in the early 2000's, apparently the scene has exploded. My mate certainly has never had any trouble finding a fella that's for sure, or so he says
    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    Good luck. Ill be honest. Seems like a needless risk but I hope you stay safe.

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    Bro. Please don't die before you bring back VMs and vBookie. =/

    In all seriousness though, why are people in China so friendly? As you said yourself, the climate/smog is horrible, you can't visit any of the big sites on the internet, and they're living in a communist state. What gives?


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    Re: Nash In China 2017

    You will probably be fine in North Korea. I think taking pictures might be prohibited though or some shit. But I think you'll be ok. You should totally ask them to show you the spot where Kim Jong Il invented the Cheeseburger.

    Fuck learning Chinese man. I've watched a Chinese program before and trying to pick it up seems solid. I guess they've been taught it from birth though and don't know any better - I assume they'd probably struggle with sounds that aren't normal in their language. I don't think speaking would be my main problem - reading it seems like it'd be a massive pain in the arse. Are signs and stuff in English or?

    Good going on the love life, shagger. Where's the Scottish bird from? She definitely might be a hipster fuck judging from that description.

    I think I read somewhere that Chinese people like to ask foreigners for photos often, any truth?





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    Quote Originally Posted by PeepShow View Post
    In all seriousness though, why are people in China so friendly? As you said yourself, the climate/smog is horrible, you can't visit any of the big sites on the internet, and they're living in a communist state. What gives?
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    Well, for starters, you say you cant visit any of the big sites, but here's the top 20 sites on the net in terms of traffic:

    1) Google - Western
    2) YouTube - Western
    3) Facebook - Western
    4) Baidu - Chinese Google
    5) Wikipedia - Both Western and Chinese
    6) Yahoo - wtf really
    7) Google India - Never used by Westerners
    8) Amazon - Western but deliver to China
    9) QQ - Chinese Facebook, News (bear in mind Bloomberg etc are banned) and Youtube combo
    10) Google Japan - Never used by Westerners
    11) Windows Live - Basically just software downloads
    12) Taobao - Chinese amazon like website, except delivery within 8 hours and a tenth of the price. Takes all local mom and pop stores as vendors, and there's millions of them in China. My favourite ever website apart from WC.
    13) VK - Russian FaceBook
    14) Twitter - Western
    15) Instagram - Western
    16) Hao123 - Chinese Directory for numbers and addresses
    17) Sohu - Chinese 'independent' news portal

    18) SinaCorp - Chinese instant messenger kinda like FaceBook messenger
    19) Reddit - Western
    20) Google Germany - Not really used by US or UK

    These are massive companies. Baidu turned over nearly 11 billion dollars just off the website last year, and has total assets worth nearly 150 billion dollars. It's because we have never even seen them before that we just kind of say, poor them they have no idea. They don't need us that's the problem, they're fine for themselves. You also have to remember that none of them speak English, so all of these sites are written in Chinese. Twitter is absolutely useless to a Chinese person because it has no translate button. It's not like they even know hello, how much is that, can I get a lift, I reckon 95% of the Chinese population can speak not one word of English, and I'd wager a good proportion wouldn't even recognize the alphabet.

    In terms of happiness, you only have to look at where they've been even in recent years to appreciate how far they've come in such a short span. People forget exactly what happened in China during theSecond World War, and that they were a strong Allied force through much of the conflict, because their war against the Japanese was so far removed from western soil.

    It is no joke, Japanese forces committed some of the worst warcrimes known to mankind against the Chinese people and invaded much of the Eastern side of the country, raping and burning their way through a lot of relatively powerless Communist cities. They captured Beijing and Shanghai, 2 of the biggest Cities in the entire world, and the capital at the time Nanjing, and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of civilians. The Chinese hate the Japanese, and not an England - Germany 'oh 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup' kind of thing, more of a 'not even legally allowed a PlayStation because it's Sony until 2012' kind of thing. It's bad.



    They got pretty damn far considering over 85% of the population is situated on the East coast

    Suddenly, Mao comes in in 1949, they've kicked out the Japanese, and they have to rebuild. Mao basically decides the only way they can do that is to overwork and slave drive the republic to death with plans like 'The Great Leap Forward' (estimated 20-40 million Chinese deaths from famine and overwork), and systematic isolation from the West. "Oh the US are a bunch of pompous imperialists, Britain just want to colonize everything, the Soviets can't make their minds up and don't start me on the Japanese". Some people start to realise Mao was a bit nuts and then he dies in 1976 (yep, 40 years ago) and everyone takes stock

    Look at these numbers:

    Pre Mao:
    Literacy rate: <20 percent
    Life expectancy: 35 years.
    Population: 400 million

    Post Mao:
    Literacy rate: 93%
    Life expectancy: 55 years
    Population: 1.1 billion

    For many people, Mao saved China. He is a cult hero even now, hell I literally just ate lunch at a Chairman Mao themed restauarant. They became a huge huge player on the world stage again, be it on the back of an estimated 90,000,000 dead Chinese workers but still.

    Sorry I got sidetracked, the reason they feel so damned happy all the time is because only 40 years ago it was absolutely unheard, almost a jailable offence, that a blonde Englishman could walk through Tian'anmen Square drinking a Starbucks calling an office in the UK using an Apple phone with his Indian friend. They've come so far in so short a space of time, they're just grateful for the cultural growth that the country has seen in the modern era.

    And really, it's communism in name only. Capitalism runs the country for sure.



    Quote Originally Posted by PowerfulShake View Post
    Are signs and stuff in English or?

    Good going on the love life, shagger. Where's the Scottish bird from? She definitely might be a hipster fuck judging from that description.

    I think I read somewhere that Chinese people like to ask foreigners for photos often, any truth?
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    If you've heard of Pinyin, it's that. Basically English alphabet but Chinese words. My office is on Jiuxianqiaolu which is ironically 'Alcohol Fairy Street' translated. The subway machines have a language selector on them which is grand, but the real killer is shop signs. All characters and often no window displays, you walk in it could be a launderette or a brothel, half the fun I guess.

    Scottish bird is a Glaswegian with a softish accent, pretty nice on the ears.

    I get asked to hold peoples babies for pictures a lot, especially on the subway. My sister is a blonde white girl so she got treated like a fucking movie star when she came and visited. She loved the attention the nob. It's died down a bit now, I get a lot of stares and a lot of gormless cunts just slack jawed because I'm tall, and I never get subbed for my football team because I'm white which is nice. You really do get used to it after a few months

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    Sounds pretty insane. Tbh, at least Mao seemed to have nationalist intentions. My home country has a selfish bastard as president who refuses to allow a new election and the country literally has democratic in its name. Stupid ass mofos. I wonder how easily Chinese tell each other apart from Japanese. Not saying that to be racist because I couldnt tell most black or white races in terms of ethnicity.

    My uni has a ridiculous amount of Chinese students and just a peak at theur phones and laptops and theyre 100% always on these chinese websites over american websites so im not really shocked to see those facts pointed out. They dont speak English much either, even within class.

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    Very cool thread. I've never lived anywhere but here in Boston with a 20 mile distance. Must be amazing to move somewhere totally different. China seems pretty breathtaking, and like you said being a tall white guy must really get the ladies looking. FUCK, what a life haha.

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