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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Heh so.

    We got fucking dicked yesterday ey?

    Good god we were shit. It would be nice to see an actual play or 2 sometimes instead of Lebron posting up then dishing to a corner for three, Kyrie ISO/spinning fadeaway or TT getting a putback. I would absolutely hate to think where this team would be without LeBron, the Wizards at best? I was so pissed watching it I almost let it distract me from the fact that the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals with the first ever unanimous MVP on their side.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Hoiberg might be one of the worst coaches in the game. I'm starting to think about who's deserving of ASG honors and it's so sad to think about how underrated Gasol is. Without him the Grizzlies would be worse than the Wizards but we're right in the middle of it. To me I love how competitive the West is among the top 7. It really feels like anybody is a threat right now in that conference with all the teams playing quality basketball (although we did just lose to the Bulls tbf)

    Here's the updated MVP ladder:

    1. James Harden
    2. Russell Westbrook
    3. Kevin Durant
    4. LeBron James
    5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
    6. Isaiah Thomas
    7. Stephen Curry
    8. Kawhi Leonard
    9. DeMar DeRozan
    10. Paul George

    Next 5: Jimmy Butler, DeMarcus Cousins, Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Kemba Walker

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    I really don't understand why Hayward doesn't get more love in these. He's carried an injury plagued team to way overachieve and without him they're fighting with the Kings and Pelicans. I think Davis should be way higher if they can actually get in the playoffs. Gasol & Butler should both be higher.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    SI Ranked Marc Gasol the 22nd best player in the league, which is fairly accurate, considering 10-25 are pretty interchangeable to most people. I think most people properly rate Gasol after his DPOY in 2012-13.

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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Idk how high you can put Durant or Curry considering that the team is probably just as good without either men.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Jeff Van Gundy (who doesn't vote for ASG) listed Gasol as one of his West starters if he did vote. I think Gasol gets love in stretches.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    Hoiberg might be one of the worst coaches in the game
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    It's not all his fault. In fact it's mostly not his fault. The front office gave him a roster of bad shooters and few good ones. So Hoiberg feels compelled in today's NBA to play both Mirotic and McDermott together in crunch time so he maximizes the team's 3-point potential and spreads the floor. The problem is McDermott has improved -- even if slightly -- on defense and other facets of the game (like being a better all-around scorer and passer) while Mirotic hasn't.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    Hoiberg might be one of the worst coaches in the game. I'm starting to think about who's deserving of ASG honors and it's so sad to think about how underrated Gasol is. Without him the Grizzlies would be worse than the Wizards but we're right in the middle of it. To me I love how competitive the West is among the top 7. It really feels like anybody is a threat right now in that conference with all the teams playing quality basketball (although we did just lose to the Bulls tbf)

    Here's the updated MVP ladder:

    1. James Harden
    2. Russell Westbrook
    3. Kevin Durant
    4. LeBron James
    5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
    6. Isaiah Thomas
    7. Stephen Curry
    8. Kawhi Leonard
    9. DeMar DeRozan
    10. Paul George

    Next 5: Jimmy Butler, DeMarcus Cousins, Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Kemba Walker

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    I really don't understand why Hayward doesn't get more love in these. He's carried an injury plagued team to way overachieve and without him they're fighting with the Kings and Pelicans. I think Davis should be way higher if they can actually get in the playoffs. Gasol & Butler should both be higher.

    I love DeMar, but I feel like Lowry is more deserving of the MVP if you;re picking one from that team.

    I like Hayward btw, I'll love him when Miami pays him in the offseason



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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainC View Post
    I love DeMar, but I feel like Lowry is more deserving of the MVP if you;re picking one from that team.
    To back up your Lowry > Demar, Lowry on the court w/o Demar this season is some sort of ridiculous +/- number better than Demar on the court w/o Lowry.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden One View Post
    To back up your Lowry > Demar, Lowry on the court w/o Demar this season is some sort of ridiculous +/- number better than Demar on the court w/o Lowry.
    Yeah, I think it out there are numbers out there somewhere that the Lowry + bench actually works and Demar + bench doesn't. Lowry is also like third in 3PT% in the league right now, and I'm sure he's taken more than the two guys ahead of him (Lyles and George Hill).



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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Embiid went +20 tonight. SON, that man deserves an ASG reserve spot.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Yeah Sixers beating the Raptors tonight was huge for a young team's confidence moving forward. Embiid with his tenth game with 20 plus points just amazing to watch him play on both sides of the Court. Saric put in work too when in matter. I haven't seen a Sixer do this well for my team in their first year, because of his injuries that kept him out, since Iverson. Not even Iverson made the ASG in his first year of playing he did in 2000 which was what 4 years in. I love that this guy wants to the best Big Man if not in the East, but in the whole NBA.

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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Embiid will probably warrant an All-NBA slot. Dude is the real deal. Shame he's with Philadelphia.

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    January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Told you to trust the process. Zero still owes Embiid an apology. I listened to Lowe's podcast episode with JVG last week or whenever it was, and he mentioned that Philly is actually plus when Embiid plays. I really can't wait to see him when he's no longer on any playing restrictions. It's also amazing to see how much stuff comes naturally when he's only played for a handful of years and has so much more to learn to get even better.

    Edit- I almost forgot about the Rudy Gay injury last night too. Sucks for him and I wonder what it changed in terms of where he could have landed, because he was planning on opting out at the end of the season to get a better deal.

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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by GIROOOOUUD!!! View Post
    Embiid will probably warrant an All-NBA slot. Dude is the real deal. Shame he's with Philadelphia.
    He's ours for as long as Embiid wants to stay there. Phila has shown him love, and he's showing them love back to them with his play on the court.

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    Philly's gonna turn it around in the summer when they go get Kyle Lowry and Gordon Hayward.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Well Embiid officially not a Starter for the East, but he better be a reserve. Also what the fuck Westbrook wasn't a Starter for the West why not? Dude is playing outta his mind especially this Season fucking voters.

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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by HoHo View Post
    Well Embiid officially not a Starter for the East, but he better be a reserve. Also what the fuck Westbrook wasn't a Starter for the West why not? Dude is playing outta his mind especially this Season fucking voters.
    Because it's a popularity contest and fans think Westbrook is a bigger bitch than Curry & Harden. Not sure why everyone is whining like ASG is pure skill -_- even NBA players made joke votes.
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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    I don't know why people still care about the ASG

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    Re: January 2017 NBA Discussion

    I mean, not that it's saying a lot but it's still probably the best all star game out of the 4 major sports.

    You could argue baseball is more competitive and is played more closely to a real game, but I just get more enjoyment out of the best players in the world chucking threes and slamming it down, much like I prefer the HR derby to the actually ASG. NBA All Star weekend is fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeepShow View Post
    I mean, not that it's saying a lot but it's still probably the best all star game out of the 4 major sports.

    You could argue baseball is more competitive and is played more closely to a real game, but I just get more enjoyment out of the best players in the world chucking threes and slamming it down, much like I prefer the HR derby to the actually ASG. NBA All Star weekend is fun.
    I think it'd be more fun as a 3 on 3 basketball tournament.

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