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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Yay Cindy can be happy Giannis is tied in the top 10 for the MVP Ladder. I don't get Davis and especially Griffin staking claim to a top 10 most valuable player thus far, maybe in fantasy but in real life the Pelicans are going nowhere & CP3's way more valuable to the Clips than Blake. I think if you take into account true value to their teams I would put Gasol & Gordon Hayward in my top 10 for carrying an extremely severely injury ridden team in Memphis & just an injury ridden team in Utah on their backs to potential playoff berths. (Though Hayward missed a little bit of time early on.) But otherwise I mostly agree.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    Yay Cindy can be happy Giannis is tied in the top 10 for the MVP Ladder. I don't get Davis and especially Griffin staking claim to a top 10 most valuable player thus far, maybe in fantasy but in real life the Pelicans are going nowhere & CP3's way more valuable to the Clips than Blake. I think if you take into account true value to their teams I would put Gasol & Gordon Hayward in my top 10 for carrying an extremely severely injury ridden team in Memphis & just an injury ridden team in Utah on their backs to potential playoff berths. (Though Hayward missed a little bit of time early on.) But otherwise I mostly agree.
    I'm inclined to agree with you sentiment on Anthony Davis. He's no doubt a top 10 NBA player (maybe even top 5), but if we're taking the verbiage of MVP literally then a team that isn't even in playoff contention cannot have a player in MVP contention. Westbrook's Oscar Robinson type numbers make him an easy MVP for me right now. Between Harden & him, I think it'll be a matter of who can elevate their mediocre teams more. I think Harden has a weaker team to deal with however. It's great and depressing to see the three OKC stars as top three of the ladder, but on three different teams, it just seems like a missed opportunity to recreate the magic going in GSW. Glad to see Kemba Walker doing well, always regretted Raptors not drafting him years back.

    Sucks that DeMar DeRozan has slowed down since his great start but I'd still argue that being the best player on a #2 seed in the East that would be a great deal weaker without him should earn him more top 10 support.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    If the Pelicans didn't have AD, they probably would have one or two wins this season. He's a monster.

    But I love the Giannis adoration people are showing this season. He's a real motha effer and that's a deece playoff team.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Of course without him Pelicans are fucking horrific but they're still not a playoff team. So what, 12th or 15th? Not much of a different between the two. Better yet to not have AD and get a top 3 pick then get a few wins and end up lottery but not high enough lottery.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Cage View Post
    Of course without him Pelicans are fucking horrific but they're still not a playoff team. So what, 12th or 15th? Not much of a different between the two. Better yet to not have AD and get a top 3 pick then get a few wins and end up lottery but not high enough lottery.
    I don't disagree. I think they definitely should sit AD for the season. But that's a management decision. On the floor, though, no one in the NBA means more individually to their team's success. He leads the league in scoring, is averaging a double-double, leads the league in blocks, and is fourth in usage rate. I don't know what the stats are for his fellow starting 5 versus other elite platers, but he isn't playing with a credible NBA team. The fact they are 7-15 is amazing and shows how amazing he has been this year. I think the Pels start Tim Frazier.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Imagine if the NBA had a loaning system and Pelicans loaned him out to a better team for a fuckton of money and knowledge they're pretty much getting a lottery pick. Not saying it's a good idea of course.
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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Cage View Post
    Imagine if the NBA had a loaning system and Pelicans loaned him out to a better team for a fuckton of money and knowledge they're pretty much getting a lottery pick. Not saying it's a good idea of course.
    You mean like EPL. Not a bad idea but it would require no cap.
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    Ok, I'm not gunna lie. This is pretty great.



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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    It's okay.

    I'm aware Miami wasn't going to be anything special, but it sucks to see all the injuries the team as had. This team is almost as injury-riddled as the Grizz from last season. What sucks even harder is that these injuries have held out the young guys you wanna develop in Winslow and Richardson. On the bright side, Whiteside has been a beast and Dragic is on a tear. I'm honestly going to go ahead and start doing some research on who will go in the lottery soon so I can see who Miami may have to chase after, supposedly this year will be a strong draft.



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    Idc what SS says, I think that's one of the 10 best in-game dunks I've ever seen.


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    It's a sweet dunk, but I don't think I put it top 10.

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    Re: December 2016 NBA Thread

    I can get into a hypothetical future-scope feature from a serious journalist.


    I can't get into a hypothetical future-scope feature from a journalist who slides in goofball comments like "The Ringer's Jalen Rose" and "Stephen Curry goes to Charlotte" and "after Draymond fractured Blake Griffin's testicles."


    Great potential ruined by Bill Simmons' attempts to be humorous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden One View Post
    I can get into a hypothetical future-scope feature from a serious journalist.


    I can't get into a hypothetical future-scope feature from a journalist who slides in goofball comments like "The Ringer's Jalen Rose" and "Stephen Curry goes to Charlotte" and "after Draymond fractured Blake Griffin's testicles."


    Great potential ruined by Bill Simmons' attempts to be humorous.


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    The "It All Went Wrong" version is better, more serious writing: https://theringer.com/nba-sliding-do...821#.f57b1k66b
    I like Bill more than most, but dude has to chill on Boogie to Boston. He's been writing about it and predicting it'll happen every year for the past five years.


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    I like Bill, too, but when you scope something as a "serious future reality" and still try inserting your humor easter eggs, it doesn't fit and I can't take you as an authority on the subject. Leave that for the podcasts and picks columns. This was written by someone who doesn't have an editor with the balls to say something.
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    Yeah RIP Craig Sager, truly an entertaining segment everytime he was on screen. Sager's suits was loud and bright, but he carried himself like a champ every day of his life.

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