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    Re: TEW 2016

    So got a save rolling. Well, still on day 1, so not REALLY rolling yet. But it usually takes me quite a while to get through day one lol

    I added the B show, WCW Underground. I like to use that to build up the midcard talents and let some talent who aren't great on the mic get mic time without it being damaging - looking at you here, Lance Storm. although I can't really replicate it in the game, I like the idea that the show would have its own look and feel compared to Nitro. Kinda of like NXT, but further away from the core product presentation. I do like to use local jobbers on the B show - it helps get the momentum up for guys who are mostly going to be on the main show jobbing. And I also like to bring up developmental talent, as just being on TV will rapidly increase their popularity.

    I opened two child companies. Both are the smallest possible size (so $100,000 each to open) and on touring schedules. Both will start touring in July (game starts in June) and generally run 2 shows per month, plus the big monthly event. They both have a product that is very similar to WCW, which is equal balance between performance and popularity.

    New York City Wrestling - a CornellVerse company but using an alt logo. Based, quite obviously, in New York City. The idea is for the WCW to be taking a low-level shot at the WWF by basing one of its affiliates in the McMahon home base. I can use the belts and events from the Cverse promotion.

    Southpaw Wrestling - using the logo from the WWE's fun web-show, its based in Raleigh, North Carolina. The idea is that the new WCW ownership wanted to run a child company in the home territory of its predecessor, JCP, but were the Crockett family told them not to use a name that referenced JCP. So they went with a semi-goofy name instead. Not going so far as it connect it to the goofiness of the show. Should be fun to come up with some events for it tho.

    I'm made a first round of offers for new signings. The majority of those will end up in developmental as they just aren't ready to be featured heavily. The ones that are going onto the main roster will be the likes of Steve Corino, KENTA (can only join on a PPA), Masato Tanaka, Christopher Daniels... I still have to decide whether some guys who start on the main roster but are pretty green will stick on the roster or go to development. The biggest ones are Sean O'Haire and his crew. The likes of AJ Styles, Chris Harris, James Storm.... not as much of a decision to make. I typically move O'Haire, Jindrak, and the rest to a child company but I'm debating keeping them on the roster for a bit.

    I am mulling opening a third company. I try to place child companies in important regions, but ideally ones that don't have a lot of other companies. The Great Lakes is a great spot, whether its Chicago or Detroit. Have several possible options for either spot. Just don't know if I want to do it right from the start (making it easier to balance the rosters of all three at the same time) or later. Prospects with potential will develop in a child company regardless of whether they work matches or not, but working matches makes the improvements faster. And setting up a number of tag teams gives you the bonus of adding tag team experience.

    Dunno if I'm manage to book the first Nitro to night but shouldn't be too long before I get rolling with it proper.


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    So got a save rolling. Well, still on day 1, so not REALLY rolling yet. But it usually takes me quite a while to get through day one lol

    I added the B show, WCW Underground. I like to use that to build up the midcard talents and let some talent who aren't great on the mic get mic time without it being damaging - looking at you here, Lance Storm. although I can't really replicate it in the game, I like the idea that the show would have its own look and feel compared to Nitro. Kinda of like NXT, but further away from the core product presentation. I do like to use local jobbers on the B show - it helps get the momentum up for guys who are mostly going to be on the main show jobbing. And I also like to bring up developmental talent, as just being on TV will rapidly increase their popularity.

    I opened two child companies. Both are the smallest possible size (so $100,000 each to open) and on touring schedules. Both will start touring in July (game starts in June) and generally run 2 shows per month, plus the big monthly event. They both have a product that is very similar to WCW, which is equal balance between performance and popularity.

    New York City Wrestling - a CornellVerse company but using an alt logo. Based, quite obviously, in New York City. The idea is for the WCW to be taking a low-level shot at the WWF by basing one of its affiliates in the McMahon home base. I can use the belts and events from the Cverse promotion.

    Southpaw Wrestling - using the logo from the WWE's fun web-show, its based in Raleigh, North Carolina. The idea is that the new WCW ownership wanted to run a child company in the home territory of its predecessor, JCP, but were the Crockett family told them not to use a name that referenced JCP. So they went with a semi-goofy name instead. Not going so far as it connect it to the goofiness of the show. Should be fun to come up with some events for it tho.

    I'm made a first round of offers for new signings. The majority of those will end up in developmental as they just aren't ready to be featured heavily. The ones that are going onto the main roster will be the likes of Steve Corino, KENTA (can only join on a PPA), Masato Tanaka, Christopher Daniels... I still have to decide whether some guys who start on the main roster but are pretty green will stick on the roster or go to development. The biggest ones are Sean O'Haire and his crew. The likes of AJ Styles, Chris Harris, James Storm.... not as much of a decision to make. I typically move O'Haire, Jindrak, and the rest to a child company but I'm debating keeping them on the roster for a bit.

    I am mulling opening a third company. I try to place child companies in important regions, but ideally ones that don't have a lot of other companies. The Great Lakes is a great spot, whether its Chicago or Detroit. Have several possible options for either spot. Just don't know if I want to do it right from the start (making it easier to balance the rosters of all three at the same time) or later. Prospects with potential will develop in a child company regardless of whether they work matches or not, but working matches makes the improvements faster. And setting up a number of tag teams gives you the bonus of adding tag team experience.

    Dunno if I'm manage to book the first Nitro to night but shouldn't be too long before I get rolling with it proper.


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    So I had some time last night and managed to spend it on TEW. Which means I managed to.... populate my spreadsheet with data!

    I've always kept spreadsheets for TEW games, but I've become more diligent about it. I found it particularly helpful with the Burning Hammer save, since that was a big roster that I bloated up, had a weight class split, and I ran tournaments. The tournaments - Grand Prix's, specifically - would be unmanageable without a spreadsheet tracking system. I don't track everything in the spreadsheet - its things like push, popularity, whether they are in a storyline, etc. If I was going to track skills, it would be easier to export data. I have a master spreadsheet setup but it does take some time to populate it with the specific data for this save. I then generally update it once a month.

    One of the things I like using the spreadsheet roster sheet for is to separate the two weight divisions. I've been very guilty of under-using the cruiserweights in the past. Its especially easy since at the start, none are really more than midcarders in terms of popularity. In my save with Burning Hammer, some of the super juniors could borderline headline events right from the start, and absolutely could after a couple of months worth of building. The separation on the spreadsheet helped make sure I made better use of the super juniors in that save and I'm hoping it will do the same for the cruiserweights here.

    The idea is to keep the cruiserweights fairly separate. Not that they won't ever be mixed into matches with heavyweights, but I don't want it to be the standard. If I wasn't being attentive before, I would end up having one cruiserweight match on a show, and then a bunch of cruiserweights either losing to heavyweights or mixed into multi-man tags. That should be the exception, not the norm. Anyone who is a lightweight will likely come in as a cruiserweight, unless they are coming in as part of a tag team with a partner who isn't a CW. AJ Styles, CM Punk, and Bryan Danielson will all come thru as CWs. The idea is to have a mechanism whereby CWs can choose to move up. I like the idea of Punk being the one who instigates this process in the first place, because it fits with his anti-authority dynamics. Something like winning the Cruiserweight Grand Prix will give a cash prize, and either a shot at the CW title or the option to move up to HW.

    Something I've been meaning to mention is that the default Matches that are listed as Cruiserweight are dead standard matches. The only thing I did was copy the default standard 1v1, 2v2, etc matches, then add Name Value and the CW to them. All it does is show them a CW in the booking grid and in the show results. Its the same thing with the tournament matches that are in there. Its not necessary by any means, but I found it really helps me to make sure I'm making use of the CWs.

    The one thing I still want to do in the spreadsheet is add the workers I'm signing for developmental. As much as anything, this will make for an easy reference for how many workers are in each developmental company. At the moment, it will help me figure out if a third child promotion is needed right now or something I can leave for later.


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    Re: TEW 2016

    I do like the idea of a more concrete split in the divisions. And the system for moving up would be great too. Like how Austin Aries and, I believe, Chris Sabin later did with the X Division Championship at Destination X back in the day. Looking forward to what you do with your roster when you get the storylines running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    I do like the idea of a more concrete split in the divisions. And the system for moving up would be great too. Like how Austin Aries and, I believe, Chris Sabin later did with the X Division Championship at Destination X back in the day. Looking forward to what you do with your roster when you get the storylines running.
    Yeah, I vaguely remember TNA have some mechanism or method, but I honestly don't remember it. I also remember hearing or reading about a Japense company that had a veteran go after their super junior title. I want to say it was All Japan and that it was Keiji Mutoh about 4-5 year ago but could be totally off on those. Anyway, I remember them talking about all these segments where the vet was having to lose weight so he could be formally weighed to make the weight limit for the lower class. That's fun... but I don't want it QUITE that formal.

    There are a lot of different ways to go about the mechanism. I'm pretty sure I had something worked into my WCW Empire project about how guys could choose to move up but I don't off-hand recall and I'm not eager to go digging lol. Think it was Ed or Jim that suggested it could be as simple as successfully defending the Cruiserweight title a certain number of times would give the wrestler the option of moving up. I like the idea of tying it to a tournament but it could work either way. Could even have it work both ways.

    Part of why I like the idea of using Punk is that he already creates a bit of a conundrum. I want to use him as a singles wrestler, but also linked with Colt Cabana and tagging quite often. He's not really a natural cruiserweight in terms of style, but that's part of why I want to have him in the division for a bit, to be honest. I love the idea of having a CW division that is diverse in terms of ring styles. Sure, loads of guys are fliers. But some will be technicians or even brawlers (harder to find).


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    Re: TEW 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    Yeah, I vaguely remember TNA have some mechanism or method, but I honestly don't remember it. I also remember hearing or reading about a Japense company that had a veteran go after their super junior title. I want to say it was All Japan and that it was Keiji Mutoh about 4-5 year ago but could be totally off on those. Anyway, I remember them talking about all these segments where the vet was having to lose weight so he could be formally weighed to make the weight limit for the lower class. That's fun... but I don't want it QUITE that formal.

    There are a lot of different ways to go about the mechanism. I'm pretty sure I had something worked into my WCW Empire project about how guys could choose to move up but I don't off-hand recall and I'm not eager to go digging lol. Think it was Ed or Jim that suggested it could be as simple as successfully defending the Cruiserweight title a certain number of times would give the wrestler the option of moving up. I like the idea of tying it to a tournament but it could work either way. Could even have it work both ways.

    Part of why I like the idea of using Punk is that he already creates a bit of a conundrum. I want to use him as a singles wrestler, but also linked with Colt Cabana and tagging quite often. He's not really a natural cruiserweight in terms of style, but that's part of why I want to have him in the division for a bit, to be honest. I love the idea of having a CW division that is diverse in terms of ring styles. Sure, loads of guys are fliers. But some will be technicians or even brawlers (harder to find).
    Yeah, the way it worked in TNA if I recall correctly is the X Division champ could surrender the title for a World title shot at Destination X each year.

    But as far as diversity in the division goes, I'm all for it. Anyways, we had guys like Dean Malenko who weren't high flyers already hold the belt and it technically is just a weight limit. I always prefer more technical champs in those divisions. In fact if it was me, I would take that belt pretty much in the same direction as the ROH Pure championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Yeah, the way it worked in TNA if I recall correctly is the X Division champ could surrender the title for a World title shot at Destination X each year.

    But as far as diversity in the division goes, I'm all for it. Anyways, we had guys like Dean Malenko who weren't high flyers already hold the belt and it technically is just a weight limit. I always prefer more technical champs in those divisions. In fact if it was me, I would take that belt pretty much in the same direction as the ROH Pure championship.
    That's what it was, thanks. Knew it was something along those lines. Its a neat idea. I just prefer to tie to accomplishment rather than a specific event.

    Dean Malenko is exactly who I think of when mentioning a diversity of styles in the division. I have given thought to altering it from the typical high-flying CW division.... but honestly, the game is limiting in that regard. The vast majority of lighter male workers are going to be high flyers or well rounded. Far rarer to find a technician who has strong technical wrestling skills but less flying skills. Brawlers are even less common at lightweight. Even when you look at Japan, where the super junior style is more diverse by its nature than just high flying, most workers fit that model than technician or brawler. In the end, I think my version of the WCW CW division will end up kinda like what the mid to later 90s division was at its best and what TNA's X-Division has tried to be.... built around exciting, fast-paced and athletic matches that are diverse in their style, rather than focused purely one aspect or another.


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    Re: TEW 2016

    Working into February 1995 with WCW right now.

    Last October I brought in Randy Savage beginning a storyline against Hogan that has been raging on since. Savage has been chaos at every event. I had Bockwinkel attempt to fire him only for Bischoff to step in block it, as he is the President of WCW. Bischoff and Bockwinkel had a feud over power with Bischoff being on Savage's side, obviously bound to get rid of Hogan, while Bockwinkel obviously backs Hogan and is trying to stop Savage and Bischoff. This resulted in a WCW World Title match at Starrcade where Hogan beat Savage which also granted Bockwinkel power.

    Fast forward a bit, Savage enlisted Scott Norton from NJPW to be his muscle. First we had Norton attack a fan and cause a big controversy, then the two of them destroyed Hogan and Steiner after their title match at Road Wild and used a sledge hammer to destroy the World Heavyweight Championship. Now Ted Turner has stepped in, suspended the two of them and fired Bockwinkel and will soon be handing the reigns over to Bischoff. I plan to use this period to have Hogan finally drop the title one way or another before finding a way to dethrone Bischoff after a few months of tyrannical rule.

    So far I've managed to boost a few of the younger generation up the card. Steve Austin, Scott Steiner, Dustin Rhodes, DDP, Lord Steven Regal, Brian Pillman and Taz are upper midcard and main event now. In some cases, these guys were already up there but have reached new heights with strong booking. Austin has basically only lost to Vader in the half a year I've booked so far. Steiner finally managed to beat Flair at the Japan Supershow. Regal went over Steamboat at Starrcade and had a title match with Hogan at one point. Taz has been booked a lot like his ECW run as The Human Suplex Machine.

    Then I have a good little crop of guys I brought in as jobbers who are now solid midcarders. Basically the WWF Attitude Era midcard lol. Al Snow, AC Conner, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, Pegasus Kid (Benoit), John Layfield and Rey Mysterio Jr. are all developing well.

    Now, I've had Jean-Paul Levesque paired with Lord Steven Regal for a while but Regal is always pushing main event status and I think it's time to take Levesque to the next level. I've written him out for a while, having Regal accidentally strike him with brass knuckles, giving him a concussion, messing up his vision. I'm going to bring him back with a more badass gimmick, like we've come to know him for. I do want to change his name though. And I don't want to make him Triple H of course because I don't like to name someone something that they got from a different company.

    So does anyone have any ideas on names for him. Does Paul Levesque sound any more badass than Jean-Paul Levesque? Should I try to give him a whole new name or just change his ring name to something more like a nickname (ie Triple H, The Rock, Sting, etc)?

    EDIT: I also debuted Nitro and will soon start Thunder. And I made Pegasus Kid the inagural Cruiserweight Champion at Starrcade.

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    Eh I don't usually mind going with a name that they used later in another company, so I would probably just go with the Hunter Hearst Helmsely which can eventually become Triple H. Or use the Suggest Name function over and over until I find something that clicks.


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    So one show into my WCW save lol. Which was a "Maple Leaf tour" house show in Canada. The whole purpose of which is to build up the popularity of WCW in Canada a bit so I can get a TV deal a bit down the road. Also getting workers assigned to the three developmental companies, setting them up properly with titles, events, and so on.

    And... Shifting Sands also came out yesterday. Its a 2006 mod. Mammoth released it. I'm liking the look of it so far and that's a pretty fun time period. Don't know if I would run WWE (most likely), run TNA, or resurrect WCW. There are a few thins I don't love right off the top - he uses 3/4 body pics (not my favorite, but not my call), could probably use more depth in terms of regional-sized promotions, and I don't know how much he has for future workers / promotions.

    It kinda makes me want to go back to messing around with the 2012 mod I have tossed around. Its basically an early, incomplete version of The Real World Chronicles. I've added a load of workers and promotions, but it really needs a balancing, which ends up being a HUGE amount of work. And I'm not sure how much I would actually enjoy booking in that period. The WWE has some cool stuff but also some pretty shit stuff. Like the whole "Rematch of the Century" WM main event, mis-use of Punk, some of the "Big John" stuff.... Maybe I'd be better off taking it back to 2010, when WWECW was still its pomp and you can launch NXT, launch the WWE Network, bring in all the indy stars like Danielson, Tyler Black, etc.


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