Page 330 of 332 FirstFirst ... 230280320328329330331332 LastLast
Results 6,581 to 6,600 of 6630

Thread: Transfer Talk Thread

  1. #6581
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    I don't get it, Villa feel like they have bought a goalkeeper every window for the last few years to the point where I'm never sure who their #1 is, but they have the money to waste. I do think good on Martinez for wanting to be more than a backup now, but 20M seems steep for what we've seen of him.
    Pretty sure he also only had 1 year left on his contract.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotic View Post
    I'm a bit surprised Brighton were in for Martinez, I thought Matt Ryan has been decent for them.
    I'm guessing here, but style of play? Think Ryan is a more traditional type of GK whereas Martinez not only performed well as a shot-stopper but his distribution is very good.
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  2. #6582
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Looks like another Arsenal departure as Torreira is heading back to Italy. Torino for 24m is the rumor, but don't know if it will be a full sale or a loan with obligation to buy, which means part now and part later.

    I really like Torreira and loved the dynamic he brought to the side, but he just doesn't seem like the kind of midfielder that Arteta wants. We are doing okay with the fee and it moves us closer to landing one of our targets - Aouar from Lyon or Partey from Atletico.

    Mentioned this before, but I have to hand it to Manchester United - they created one of the biggest "transfer stories" of the summer out of nothing. I guess having club-friendly media and giving them daily updates has value. Its still not clear if they have actually submitted a formal bid to Dortmund for Jadon Sancho. The narrative United fed the media for most of the summer was that personal terms were done but it was just a matter of Dortmund being reasonable.... but it looks like that's bullshit as its come out more recently that personal terms aren't done and both wages and agent fees are an issue. Today the headline is that United worry they will face competition to sign Sancho next summer. Well I guess that's what happens when you try to sign a player by never actually making an effort to sign them and instead just trying to use the media to make it look like you are. What a fucking weird situation.
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  3. #6583
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Bale looks likely to leave Madrid... maybe. United and Tottenham in for him. Any United supporters excited to get him in?
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  4. #6584
    People's Champion
    Baldrick's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    5,615
    Rep Power
    923644
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    As we need a RW and experienced Bale is better than nothing, though the ineptness over the Sancho deal is a bloody joke.
    I have a plan so cunning......

    #ShadeWinsLOL

  5. #6585
    Tag Team Specialist
    Tommy Thunder's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,233
    Rep Power
    75941
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    I have no more words for the United-Sancho stuff. I'll be amazed if we get him at this point.

    Bale as an alternative I'd be happy with. Have to assume it would be on loan and I've read that Real are prepared to pay half his wages? Decent deal really. I do feel. We need someone who can play the flanks as when one of our current front 3 is out then we're looking around thinking who's taking up the slack. Dan James fizzled out bad during the second half of last season and still looks very raw to me. Lingard I think needs to be moved on (though he's apparently a big part of the dressing room which is the main thing keeping United from selling) and I'm done seeing Mata out wide. He doesn't have the pace and would be much better use to us playing in the #10 role as an alternative to Bruno (which is where he prefers to play anyway).

    We just need another attacking player in really and Bale for s year I would certainly take. There is a risk of it being a 'Falcao' move but for 50% of his wages, I'll take the chance.
    Last edited by Tommy Thunder; 09-16-2020 at 01:18 AM.

  6. #6586
    People's Champion
    Baldrick's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    5,615
    Rep Power
    923644
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Woodward and Joyce messing up more deals...getting overlooked by Spurs of all clubs for potentially Bale and Reguilon haha....
    I have a plan so cunning......

    #ShadeWinsLOL

  7. #6587
    Zoom E | Szumi | Old Man
    Zoom-E's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    936
    Rep Power
    1837196
      Country                    Poland

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Some of you United fans have your heads in the clouds or something, I swear.

    United have tried to use the media to turn Sancho, and it failed. Dortmund are the greatest at holding out for what they want. They've set a high fee, knowing that United either financially can't pay it, or are reluctant too, because of the financial situation right now. United are going to lose a lot of money the longer they have to play without crowds. They may not be as financially hurting as other clubs, but it's a big ask for a club to drop £120 million pounds on a player right now (especially when Dortmund, again, the best at this game) are asking for a lot of it up front. And Dortmund know that if they keep playing hardball, which they can do because Sancho isn't actively forcing a move in any way, they can get even more money next year when there's more competition for him because clubs will have, hopefully, recovered from the COVID economy.

    The situation is made harder by the fact the Sancho is absolutely trying to fleece United as much as Dortmund is. His wages that he's asking for apparently are higher than anyone in the current squad, not to mention the agent fees, which are (no surprise) absurdly high. Ole has no desire to make a player on hugely higher wages like United already did with Sanchez, because of the effect it had on the squad. Your own manager wants balance within the squad because he wants harmony. So if you bring Sancho on much higher wages than everyone else, you either risk alienating other top guys in the squad because they don't feel as valued now, or, you have to spend even MORE money to give new higher contracts to Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Bruno, and Maguire.

    Oh, and all this is going on while United is still very much struggling to offload current fringe players that make far too much money than they are worth. You can be pissed at Woodworth et al for past issues, but you sound pretty clueless when you keep moaning about United/Sancho. It's a global pandemic economy, not all clubs want to risk long term financial stability right now, Dortmund want a huge fee, upfront no less, and Sancho's trying to get more money than he should be. It's a pretty clear situation of why nothing's happened.


    *Edit*

    Even the Reguilon business makes total sense. Real want €30 million for him, with a buyback clause that isn't very high at all, compared to the initial fee. I haven't seen specific figures for the buyback, but it's definitely less than double the initial fee. So United can buy a left back, develop him, and then lose him for way less than his market value after 1-3 seasons if he turns into a good player. How is that good business?? United want a LB, but one they can develop and keep at the club, not develop and immediately lose at a poor fee.
    Last edited by Zoom-E; 09-16-2020 at 08:00 AM.

    WCW 99: The Fingerpoke of Doom
    Now Playing in BTB Section!



  8. #6588
    People's Champion
    Baldrick's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    5,615
    Rep Power
    923644
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Don't get me wrong I know why an official bid wasn't made for Reguilon as we aren't playing feeder club for Real. Bale on the other hand would have been a handy alternative to Sancho and the money grabbing Germans. It's obvious Ole wants a RW so just get one. Let Dortmund hold onto him for another season...the way Covid is going, next summer fees will be even lower than they expect this summer

    Martinez to Villa has been sealed too, I wonder if he will out Heaton as #1 though :/
    I have a plan so cunning......

    #ShadeWinsLOL

  9. #6589
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    The buyback clause in the Reguilon deal that I saw was not that much higher than the actual fee. So it could work out to be, essentially, a loan of the player. It makes great sense for Madrid. They have Ferland Mendy and Marcelo at LB. But Marcelo is 32, so Reguilon could be of use in a year or two if he stays at the same level or gets even better. Not the best deal for Tottenham if the buyback isn't that high but I guess they improve in the short-term, which is absolutely all Jose ever cares about. Saves Jose from having to - SHOCK and HORROR - give playing time to a young player.
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  10. #6590
    People's Champion
    Baldrick's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    5,615
    Rep Power
    923644
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    The buyback clause in the Reguilon deal that I saw was not that much higher than the actual fee. So it could work out to be, essentially, a loan of the player. It makes great sense for Madrid. They have Ferland Mendy and Marcelo at LB. But Marcelo is 32, so Reguilon could be of use in a year or two if he stays at the same level or gets even better. Not the best deal for Tottenham if the buyback isn't that high but I guess they improve in the short-term, which is absolutely all Jose ever cares about. Saves Jose from having to - SHOCK and HORROR - give playing time to a young player.
    That's it. Spurs have pretty much paid £25m for a year or two loan. Madrid have a habit of doing this with younger players so no surprise really. Give Spurs a boost, then Jose will fall apart next season haha.
    I have a plan so cunning......

    #ShadeWinsLOL

  11. #6591
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    That's it. Spurs have pretty much paid £25m for a year or two loan. Madrid have a habit of doing this with younger players so no surprise really. Give Spurs a boost, then Jose will fall apart next season haha.
    Barcelona and Madrid have both been doing it for the better part of the last decade. I think Barcelona got burned by Pique and Fabregas and they adapted their approach. Always surprised more clubs don't try to do that.
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  12. #6592
    Jam Up Guy
    Keefmoon's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,621
    Rep Power
    2150116

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    That's it. Spurs have pretty much paid £25m for a year or two loan.
    Um... not quite. £25m for a two year loan would be you get nothing when he goes back. The buyback is about €15m higher than the fee paid, so if he does move back after two years we've still made a profit, albeit a smaller one than if the buyback wasn't there, which makes a lot more sense financially than a two year loan. And given the desperate need for a LB and how good he seems to be, having him for two years and making a small profit at the end doesn't sound like a terrible deal to me all things considered.

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    Barcelona and Madrid have both been doing it for the better part of the last decade. I think Barcelona got burned by Pique and Fabregas and they adapted their approach. Always surprised more clubs don't try to do that.

    I think it's because Real and Barca generally sell at a lower rate when they do that, which makes it more of a long term plan and most teams don't think that way. They sell a player below his value but also insist on a buyback that is likely to also be below his value. The way most teams operate they would sooner maximise the profit now than minimise the potential spend later. Although given Barca's current situation, I probably shouldn't praise their forward thinking too much...

  13. #6593
    Main Eventer
    Sykotic's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    9,183
    Rep Power
    1177948
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keefmoon View Post
    Um... not quite. £25m for a two year loan would be you get nothing when he goes back. The buyback is about €15m higher than the fee paid, so if he does move back after two years we've still made a profit, albeit a smaller one than if the buyback wasn't there, which makes a lot more sense financially than a two year loan. And given the desperate need for a LB and how good he seems to be, having him for two years and making a small profit at the end doesn't sound like a terrible deal to me all things considered.

    Edit:

    I think it's because Real and Barca generally sell at a lower rate when they do that, which makes it more of a long term plan and most teams don't think that way. They sell a player below his value but also insist on a buyback that is likely to also be below his value. The way most teams operate they would sooner maximise the profit now than minimise the potential spend later. Although given Barca's current situation, I probably shouldn't praise their forward thinking too much...

    Do you think the signings of Reguilon and Bale might mean Jose switches to 3-4-3. He seems to like Ben davies playing as a 3rd CB and the switch will allow Matt Doherty to play in his preferred RWB role. We saw how he struggles in a traditional flat back four. I think getting a front three of Son-Kane-Bale would be the best for Spurs. If Bale signs it's certainly curtains for Dele Alli

  14. #6594
    Big Papa's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    16,551
    Rep Power
    1145613

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    That's a good point about the transfer fees, Keef. Neither club is trying to wring every peso out of the initial fee. I guess its a bit like clubs here putting a sell-on clause into the deal, as at least they benefit further if that player excels and moves on. Obviously not completely the same, but its a form of insurance.

    Regarding Alli…. the rumor yesterday was that Tottenham were trying to include him in the deal. So yeah, not sound like he's got a particularly secure future under Jose.
    EVERY ENDING IS A NEW BEGINNING.
    YOUR LUCKY NUMBER IS NONE.
    YOUR LUCKY COLOUR IS DEAD.
    Motto:
    LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.



  15. #6595
    Champions.
    Dmac's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Newcastle-under-Lyme, England
    Posts
    18,413
    Rep Power
    24721
      Country                    England

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotic View Post
    Do you think the signings of Reguilon and Bale might mean Jose switches to 3-4-3. He seems to like Ben davies playing as a 3rd CB and the switch will allow Matt Doherty to play in his preferred RWB role. We saw how he struggles in a traditional flat back four. I think getting a front three of Son-Kane-Bale would be the best for Spurs. If Bale signs it's certainly curtains for Dele Alli
    Unfortunately Dele has been shite for a while now.

    And I do mean when I say unfortunately because I really like the lad. Maybe a fresh start somewhere else will reignite him a little?

    Bale Son and Kane front three sounds quite tasty me. Spurs quite clearly need an injecting from somewhere and maybe a return of Master Bale can do that.
    __________________________

    __________________________

    __________________________

  16. #6596
    Established Veteran
    Kintaro's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,864
    Rep Power
    82686

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Not sure why Arsenal dragged this out so long but finally Aubameyang signed a new contract. Absolutely brilliant news, our most important signing of the summer. Best striker we’ve had since Henry. I was pretty sure Auba would sign but nice to have it confirmed. Arteta no doubt had a big influence on his decision to stay. Well done Auba for sticking with us during this rebuilding process. Loved Auba’s vid with Ian Wright. Now Kroenke and the board should do their part and back Arteta by bringing in more quality players.

    In the past when we've needed players to stand by us, they've left. Auba wants to stay here because he wants to become a club legend. Auba can now cement his legacy here. Good intent from Arsenal, club moving in the right direction. Keeping Auba is huge for the club. This could potentially be a massive turning point. Now we need to get rid of some players. Plus if we can add Partey or Aouar (can’t see us getting both) this will be a great transfer window for Arsenal.


    Emi Martinez has joined Villa. Best of luck to him. We are replacing Martinez with Runar Alex Runarsson. Never heard of him. He’s from Iceland. Don’t expect much of him as he’s Dijon’s #2. Maybe Macey is going to be our #2 and this new guy our #3. Hope he can step up whenever he’s called on.

    I hate that Bale’s going back to Spurs but it would be good to see him back in the PL. Reguilon would also be a great signing for them.


    WWF 1987 The Golden Era
    http://www.wrestlingclique.com/showthread.php?t=174797


  17. #6597
    Zoom E | Szumi | Old Man
    Zoom-E's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    936
    Rep Power
    1837196
      Country                    Poland

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    We're finally getting our man - Thiago is coming to Liverpool.

    Fees of €30 million and £20 million plus £5m in add ons if we win the Premier League and Champions League. Definitely hoping for the latter fee, as if we do sell Gini to Barca, it won't be as large of a difference in transfer fees.

    Thiago is going to be crucial to the midfield as he's the guy who can unlock those deep low blocks we face almost every match. It means now we can use the full backs and/or Thiago centrally to break through, which will make us that much harder to defend against. Plus, he absolutely had Neymar in his pocket during the Champions League Final, which was stellar to watch. He was legitimately one of the top creative midfielders in Europe last season. If he can stay fit throughout the season and hit the ground running, he's the guy that makes sure we retain the Title I think

    WCW 99: The Fingerpoke of Doom
    Now Playing in BTB Section!



  18. #6598
    Champions.
    Dmac's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Newcastle-under-Lyme, England
    Posts
    18,413
    Rep Power
    24721
      Country                    England

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    The only thing with this is that the deal is not actually done yet and I'm not getting my hopes up until it is.

    Bearing in mind I know it's not even close to the same level signing. I got my hopes up for Nabil Fekir. Which was also all but done. Until it wasn't. And that probably, in hindsight ended up being a good thing but again. I'm not comparing the players. Only the situation.
    __________________________

    __________________________

    __________________________

  19. #6599
    People's Champion
    Baldrick's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    5,615
    Rep Power
    923644
      Country                    Wales

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Flick has confirmed it, wonder if Gini will leave for Barca when they manage to offload some players.

    Meanwhile in Manchester...Ed and Judge still can't get more deals over the line
    I have a plan so cunning......

    #ShadeWinsLOL

  20. #6600
    Champions.
    Dmac's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Newcastle-under-Lyme, England
    Posts
    18,413
    Rep Power
    24721
      Country                    England

    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    Flick has confirmed it, wonder if Gini will leave for Barca when they manage to offload some players.

    Meanwhile in Manchester...Ed and Judge still can't get more deals over the line
    I'll celebrate when Klopp confirms it.

    Is it not time for United to move on from Sancho? It's not happening. Surely there are alternatives.
    __________________________

    __________________________

    __________________________

Page 330 of 332 FirstFirst ... 230280320328329330331332 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 3 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 3 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •