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    Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    So if you were able to decide on how the brands were split up and which wrestlers were on which, how would it look? Here's mine.

    Raw

    Big Show
    Caylen Croft
    Christian
    CM Punk
    David Otunga
    Dolph Ziggler
    Ezekiel Jackson
    Evan Bourne
    Goldust
    Heath Slater
    Jack Swagger
    John Morrison
    Justin Gabriel
    Kofi Kingston
    Michael Tarver
    R-Truth
    Randy Orton
    Santino Marella
    Sheamus
    Skip Sheffield
    Trent Berretta
    Wade Barrett
    William Regal
    Yoshi Tatsu
    Zack Ryder

    Alicia Fox
    Beth Phoenix
    Eve
    Gail Kim
    Maryse
    Melina
    Tiffany


    Smackdown

    Alberto Del Rio
    Chavo Guerrero
    Chris Jericho
    Chris Masters
    Chody Rhodes
    Curt Hawkins
    Daniel Bryan
    Darren Young
    DH Smith
    Drew McIntyre
    Edge
    Great Khali
    Husky Harris
    Jey Uso
    Jimmy Uso
    Joey Mercury
    John Cena
    JTG
    Kane
    Kaval
    Luke Gallows
    Mark Henry
    Michael McGillicutty
    MVP
    Primo
    Rey Mysterio
    Shad Gaspard
    Ted DiBiase, Jr.
    Tyler Reks
    The Undertaker
    Triple H
    Vance Archer
    Vladimir Kozlov

    Brie Bella
    Kelly Kelly
    Layla
    Michelle McCool
    Nikki Bella
    Rosa Mendes
    Tamina

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    RAW
    Alicia Fox
    Bella Twins
    CM Punk
    Daniel Bryan
    Darren Young
    David Hart Smith
    Eve
    Gail Kim
    Goldust
    Jerry Lawler
    Jey & Jimmy Uso
    John Cena
    Kane
    Justin Roberts
    Mark Henry
    Maryse
    Melina
    Michael Cole
    Nexus
    R-Truth
    Randy Orton
    Santino Marella
    Sheamus
    Tamina
    Ted DiBiase Jr.
    The Miz
    Triple H
    Vladimir Kozlov


    Smackdown
    Alberto Del Rio
    Beth Phoenix
    Big Show
    Chavo Guerrero
    Chris Jericho
    Chris Masters
    Christian
    Cody Rhodes
    Curt Hawkins
    Dolph Ziggler
    Drew McIntyre
    Edge
    Evan Bourne
    Ezekiel Jackson
    Jack Swagger
    John Morrison
    JTG
    Kaval
    Kelly Kelly
    Kofi Kingston
    Layla
    Matt Striker
    Michelle McCool
    MVP
    Natalya
    Primo
    Rey Mysterio
    Ricardo Rodriguez
    Theodore Long
    Tiffany
    Todd Grisham
    Tony Chimel
    Tyler Reks
    Tyson Kidd
    Undertaker
    Vance Archer
    Vickie Guerrero
    William Regal
    Yoshi Tatsu
    Zack Ryder

    I didn't change a whole lot, I also did not use some. The people I didn't use who are on the roster on WWE, but on the one I came up with are people who are only in dark matches or barely even wrestle as is.









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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    My Changes would benefit both raw and smackdown of course no nexus or any stables just tag teams.

    Monday Night RAW

    The Undertaker
    Kane
    Drew McIntyre
    Ted DiBiase
    Wade Barrett
    Ezekiel Jackson
    Husky Harris
    John Morrison
    Randy Orton
    Vladimir Kozlov
    Jack Swagger
    The Miz
    Tyler Reks
    Mark Henry
    Joey Mercury
    CM Punk
    Luke Gallows
    R-Truth
    Santino Marella
    William Regal
    The Big Show
    Michael McGillicutty
    Goldust
    Daniel Bryan

    Jobbers of RAW

    Michael Tarver
    Darren Young

    General Manager - Triple H
    Commentary - Jerry Lawler & Michael Cole

    Divas

    Rosa Mendes
    Brie Bella
    Nikki Bella
    Eve
    Layla
    Michelle McCool
    Maryse
    Naomi Night

    Tag-Teams
    Vladimir Kozlov & Santino
    John Morrison & Joey Mercury
    CM Punk & Tyler Reks


    Smackdown

    Edge
    Kaval
    John Cena
    Heath Slater
    Evan Bourne
    Justin Gabriel
    David Hart Smith
    Tyson Kidd
    Curt Hawkins
    Zack Ryder
    Rey Mysterio
    MVP
    Trent Barreta
    Caylen Croft
    Jimmy Uso
    Jey Uso
    Sheamus
    Primo
    Skip Sheffield
    Vance Archer
    Yoshi Tatsu
    Cody Rhodes
    Alberto Del Rio

    Jobber of Smackdown

    David Otunga

    Divas

    Melina
    Tamina
    Gail Kim
    Beth Phoenix
    Tiffany
    Natayla
    AJ Lee
    Kaitlyn

    Tag-Teams
    Kaval & Rey Mysterio
    Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder
    Jimmy & Jey Uso w/ Tamina
    DH Smith & Tyson Kidd w/ Natalya
    Trent Barreta & Caylen Croft
    Evan Bourne & Yoshi-Tatsu

    General Manager - Teodore Long
    Commentator - Josh Matthews & Matt Striker

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    I woudln't have a different brand, and put them all back under just the WWE name.

    Sure you'd lose some guys because that's just too many...but it would increase the quality of the product.

    Unify the belts, bring back a good Tag Team division, and we're all set.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    So if you were able to decide on how the brands were split up and which wrestlers were on which, how would it look? Here's mine.

    Raw

    Big Show
    Caylen Croft
    Christian
    CM Punk
    David Otunga
    Dolph Ziggler
    Ezekiel Jackson
    Evan Bourne
    Goldust
    Heath Slater
    Jack Swagger
    John Morrison
    Justin Gabriel
    Kofi Kingston
    Michael Tarver
    R-Truth
    Randy Orton
    Santino Marella
    Sheamus
    Skip Sheffield
    Trent Berretta
    Wade Barrett
    William Regal
    Yoshi Tatsu
    Zack Ryder

    Alicia Fox
    Beth Phoenix
    Eve
    Gail Kim
    Maryse
    Melina
    Tiffany


    Smackdown

    Alberto Del Rio
    Chavo Guerrero
    Chris Jericho
    Chris Masters
    Chody Rhodes
    Curt Hawkins
    Daniel Bryan
    Darren Young
    DH Smith
    Drew McIntyre
    Edge
    Great Khali
    Husky Harris
    Jey Uso
    Jimmy Uso
    Joey Mercury
    John Cena
    JTG
    Kane
    Kaval
    Luke Gallows
    Mark Henry
    Michael McGillicutty
    MVP
    Primo
    Rey Mysterio
    Shad Gaspard
    Ted DiBiase, Jr.
    Tyler Reks
    The Undertaker
    Triple H
    Vance Archer
    Vladimir Kozlov

    Brie Bella
    Kelly Kelly
    Layla
    Michelle McCool
    Nikki Bella
    Rosa Mendes
    Tamina

    Discuss.
    i like the way you put more big names onto smackdown... i think smackdowns lacking as of late and only ever seems to have 2 or 3 main eventers. nice thread aswell

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    My main selection process was so that I never have to watch Raw.

    Smackdown:

    CM Punk
    Daniel Bryan
    David Hart Smith
    Evan Bourne
    John Morrison
    Tyson Kidd
    William Regal
    Alberto Del Rio
    The Big Show
    Chavo Guerrero
    Christian
    Cody Rhodes
    Curt Hawkins
    Dolph Ziggler
    Drew McIntyre
    Edge
    Jack Swagger
    Joey Mercury
    Kaval
    Kofi Kingston
    Luke Gallows
    Rey Mysterio
    The Undertaker
    Vance Archer
    Alicia Fox
    Gail Kim
    Melina Pérez
    Natalya Neidhart
    Beth Phoenix
    Layla
    Michelle McCool

    Raw:

    Everyone not listed above.
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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

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    Smackdown


    World Heavyweight
    CM Punk(C)
    Daniel Bryan
    William Regal
    Sheamus
    Edge
    Drew McIntyre
    Kane
    John Morrison


    Intercontinental
    Chavo Guerrero
    Cody Rhodes(C)
    Alex Riley
    Kaval
    Dolph Ziggler
    Tyler Reks
    Justin Gabriel
    Wade Barrett


    Lower Midcard(often jobbers)
    Evan Bourne
    David Hart Smith
    Tyson Kidd
    Darren Young
    Yoshi Tatsu
    Michael Tarver
    Caylan Croft
    Trent Baretta



    RAW

    WWE
    Undertaker
    John Cena
    Miz(C)
    Randy Orton
    Big Show
    Jack Swagger
    Triple HHH
    Christian


    United States
    Luke Gallows
    Rey Mysterio
    Kofi Kingston
    Joey Matthews
    Santino
    Michael McGillicutty
    Ezekiel Jackson(C)
    Vance Archer


    Lower Midcard(Often jobbers)
    David Otunga
    Goldust
    Heath Slater
    Husky Harris
    Jey Uso
    Jimmy Uso

    Primo
    R-Truth
    Chris Masters
    Curt Hawkins

    I didn't bother with the "divas" cause I really could care less. The tag titles would be thrown in there, and being unified they would appear on both shows.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by drew8117 View Post
    I woudln't have a different brand, and put them all back under just the WWE name.

    Sure you'd lose some guys because that's just too many...but it would increase the quality of the product.

    Unify the belts, bring back a good Tag Team division, and we're all set.
    Now this is what i would love to see happen. Honestly i think its the best way to go about things.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by drew8117 View Post
    I woudln't have a different brand, and put them all back under just the WWE name.

    Sure you'd lose some guys because that's just too many...but it would increase the quality of the product.

    Unify the belts, bring back a good Tag Team division, and we're all set.

    I was actually just going to post the same thing. Fuck the brand splits, I prefer everyone together. More feuds to work with instead of the same 6 guys fighting each other every week.

    Losing guys wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing because the guys we never see would most likely be gone and we wouldn't even notice.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    My list would be some months from now. I'd start off with slimming the roster down. Goodbye to Alicia Fox, Khali, Mercury, Otunga, Rosa Mendes, Slater, Tarver, The Bellas, Young (plus Gaspard, who's been sent to FCW in real life.) Ted DiBiase, Jr would have to have come a long way for me to have kept him. Happy retirement to Kane, HHH, Taker, and Mark Henry.

    After much deliberation, here's what I've come up with. I noticed that quite a few guys were missing from your original grid, Kakarot, like Tyson Kidd and The Miz, so I've inserted the ones that came to mind. Note that being in a division doesn't mean they have a clear-cut chance at winning the championship, just that that's what they're aiming for.

    Raw:

    WWE Championship
    CM Punk (C)
    John Cena
    John Morrison
    Randy Orton
    Sheamus
    The Miz
    Wade Barrett

    US Championship
    Big Show
    Drew McIntyre
    Evan Bourne (C)
    Ezekiel Jackson
    (Justin Gabriel)
    Kofi Kingston
    Luke Gallows
    MVP
    Tyler Reks
    (William Regal)

    SD:

    WHC
    Alberto Del Rio
    Chris Jericho
    Christian (C)
    Daniel Bryan
    Edge
    Jack Swagger
    Rey Mysterio

    Intercontinental Championship:
    Chavo Guerrero
    Chris Masters (C)
    Cody Rhodes
    Dolph Ziggler
    JTG
    Kaval
    Primo
    R-Truth
    (Zack Ryder)

    Tag teams:
    Champs defend on both shows.

    The Dudebusters - Caylen Croft & Trent Barretta (C)
    The Nexus - Justin Gabriel & Skip Sheffield
    The Hart Dynasty - DH Smith & Tyson Kidd
    Husky Harris & Michael McG
    The Gatecrashers - Curt Hawkins and Vance Archer
    The Usos - Jay and Jimmy Uso
    The Veterans - Goldust & William Regal
    Radical - Zack Ryder & Yoshi Tatsu
    Santino & Kozlov

    Women:
    They'd compete on both brands.
    Beth Phoenix
    Eve
    Gail Kim
    Kelly Kelly
    Layla
    Maryse
    Melina
    Michelle McCool
    Natalya (C)
    Tamina
    Tiffany

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyHotrod View Post
    I was actually just going to post the same thing. Fuck the brand splits, I prefer everyone together. More feuds to work with instead of the same 6 guys fighting each other every week.

    Losing guys wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing because the guys we never see would most likely be gone and we wouldn't even notice.

    i agree with this - it used to work fine - however im not sure how much it would affect the pushes of young superstars??

    Unifying the belts or at least the world title would bring back some meaning to title shots and title matches because i think atm they are happening too often for no reason what so ever

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
    i agree with this - it used to work fine - however im not sure how much it would affect the pushes of young superstars??

    Unifying the belts or at least the world title would bring back some meaning to title shots and title matches because i think atm they are happening too often for no reason what so ever
    Yeah, as I said earlier in the thread, the quality of the product is hurt by the seperate brands IMO.

    Unifying the belt not only puts a better product on the line, but also makes everything more meaningful IMO.

    I don't think it will hurt the pushes of younger guys, because we saw guys like HHH and Stone Cold and Rock come move up when there wasn't a split.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by drew8117 View Post
    Yeah, as I said earlier in the thread, the quality of the product is hurt by the seperate brands IMO.

    Unifying the belt not only puts a better product on the line, but also makes everything more meaningful IMO.

    I don't think it will hurt the pushes of younger guys, because we saw guys like HHH and Stone Cold and Rock come move up when there wasn't a split.

    As much as id love to see the split brands done aways with, i think they need to keep them split for the superstars well being. There would be too much traveling involved if they were to work 2 nights a week, these men have familys and lives outside of wrestling, plus they are not supermen, they need time to recover.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    Quote Originally Posted by drew8117 View Post
    I woudln't have a different brand, and put them all back under just the WWE name.

    Sure you'd lose some guys because that's just too many...but it would increase the quality of the product.

    Unify the belts, bring back a good Tag Team division, and we're all set.
    The problem with this is that quality aside, they would lose a whole load of money. They nearly doubled their house shows because they don't have to work the same roster every house show. They run two in the same day now sometimes, there is no way they would end it, at least not in the near future.

    Plus, the overall booking is just easier. Things that don't necessarily come to mind when thinking about booking. For example, they don't have to worry about writing 7 different stories twice a week. You have two separate creative teams who only have to worry about 3-4 stories and they only have to write them once a week, and don't have to find a way to fit everything into one show. Two, one of the more practiced booking techniques is keeping larger forces away from each other to create a giant collision. Far easier to do that obviously, when they are on two separate rosters.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    I see enough Smackdown members on RAW and RAW members on Smackdown, to think it would be that big a deal IMO.

    But hey, I don't claim to know the inner workings of the Wrestling business...I just believe that it would put a better product out there, and thus, as in the Attitude era, the WWE would see a boon in viewers, attendance, and quality IMO.

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    Re: Ideal Smackdown and RAW rosters

    I want to start off by saying this is my "ideal" rosters so I've left John Cena off. However if I were to have to include him, he'd be on the RAW roster. I've also decided to retire The Undertaker but once again, if I had to place him, he'd stay on Smackdown as usual.
    I should also note that I've decided to make Smackdown the rising talent brand where younger, unchallenged guys can take the top spots while the veterans can dominate the "A" show.


    RAW

    Alex Riley
    Big Show
    Caylen Croft
    Daniel Bryan
    David Otunga
    Dolph Ziggler
    Ezekiel Jackson
    Evan Bourne
    Goldust
    Jack Swagger
    John Morrison
    JTG
    Kane
    Kofi Kingston
    Mark Henry
    Michael Tarver
    Primo
    R-Truth
    Randy Orton
    Rey Mysterio
    Santino Marella
    Skip Sheffield
    Trent Barreta
    The Great Khali
    The Miz
    Triple H
    Tyson Kidd
    Vladimir Kozlov
    Wade Barrett
    Yoshi Tatsu

    Divas
    Aksana
    Alicia Fox
    Beth Phoenix
    Eve
    Gail Kim
    Maryse
    Maxine
    Melina
    Natalya
    Tiffany

    Tag Teams/Factions
    The Dudebusters (Caylen Croft and Trent Barreta)
    Skip Sheffield and Michael Tarver
    Mark Henry and Evan Bourne
    Vladimir Kozlov and Santino Marella
    R-Truth and John Morrison
    The Miz and Alex Riley

    WWE Title Contenders
    Randy Orton
    Kane
    Wade Barrett
    Rey Mysterio
    Triple H
    Big Show
    The Miz

    U.S. Title Contenders
    Daniel Bryan
    Dolph Ziggler
    Tyson Kidd
    Kofi Kingston
    John Morrison
    R-Truth
    Evan Bourne



    SMACKDOWN!
    Alberto Del Rio
    Chavo Guerrero
    Chris Jericho
    Chris Masters
    Christian
    CM Punk
    Cody Rhodes
    Curt Hawkins
    Darren Young
    David Hart Smith
    Drew McIntyre
    Edge
    Heath Slater
    Husky Harris
    Jey Uso
    Jimmy Uso
    Joey Mercury
    Justin Gabriel
    Kaval
    Lucky Cannon
    Luke Gallows
    Michael McGillicutty
    M.V.P.
    Shad Gaspard
    Sheamus
    Ted DiBiase, Jr.
    Tyler Reks
    Vance Archer
    William Regal
    Zack Ryder

    Divas
    A.J. Lee
    Beth Phoenix
    Brie Bella
    Kaitlyn
    Kelly Kelly
    Layla
    Michelle McCool
    Nikki Bella
    Rosa Mendes
    Tamina

    Tag Teams/Factions
    The Fortunate Sons (Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, David Hart Smith, Husky Harris, and Michael McGillicutty)
    The Gate Crashers (Curt Hawkins, Vance Archer, and Zack Ryder)
    Luke Gallows and Joey Mercury
    Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel
    The Usos (Jimmy and Jey)

    World Heavyweight Title Contenders
    Christian
    CM Punk
    Sheamus
    Edge
    Chris Jericho
    Alberto Del Rio
    "Dashing" Cody Rhodes

    I.C. Title Contenders
    Drew McIntyre
    Ted DiBiase
    David Hart Smith
    Kaval
    Justin Gabriel
    Husky Harris
    M.V.P.



    N
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    Johnny Curtis
    Mason Ryan
    Richie Steamboat
    Seth Rollins
    Taylor Rotunda (Slim Harris)
    Tito Colón
    Xavier Woods

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