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    Backlash Redo the Tag Division

    It's been close to 10 years now since the last and what seems to be the last era of the strong tag division. Obviously as the 2000's go on it seems to be less and less important for tag teams to mean anything more than filler time and reasons to test out young superstars or put them where they can hid them when they have nothing to write for them.

    Here is the point I am trying to get at. Good tag teams breed automatic storylines. Simply make the belts worth something. Make the rivalries last a long time. Just like they did it in the late 80's. Some teams would fued literally for years based on the heel face line. That shit is way too blurred now. It seriously needs to be addressed.

    If you were running the WWE how would you set up the tag division?
    Would you focus it on both shows? One show?
    One set of belts, or two?
    Would the tag teams have names?
    Long term or short term storylines?

    Things of that nature.

    What I am looking for is if you are able to make up 10 viable tag teams that you think could stick together as a team for at least 1 year with no breakups other than injury.

    It's harder than you think. Bonus points for giving the tag teams names. Shit, all tag teams had names until just recently. I want that to come back.

    I'll try to add some after I see some of your ideas.


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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    I can make up seven.

    William Regal and a heel Daniel Bryan
    MVP and Kofi Kingston
    Sheamus and Drew McIntyre (The UK: United Killers)
    Dolph Ziggler and Curt Hawkins (New Age Hollywood Blondes)
    William Regal and Wade Barrett
    Mike Knox and Vance Archer
    Evan Bourne and Primo Colon
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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Kofi & Evan Bourne
    Yoshi Tatsu & Jimmy Wang Yang
    Mark Henry & Big Zeke (New Twin Towers)
    Zack Ryder & Dolph Ziggler
    Shelton Benjamin & MVP


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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Yeah.

    I'm just brainstorming.
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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Chris Jericho & Mike Knox
    Finlay & Sheamus
    Evan Bourne & Rey Mysterio
    Shelton Benjamin & Jack Swagger
    David Otunga & John Morrison(heel)
    Zack Ryder & Trent Barreta
    Primo & Kofi Kingston
    JTG & R-Truth
    Yoshi Tatsu & Funaki
    Santino Marella & Goldust

    That was a lot harder then I thought it'd be. Put them roughly in order of how strongly I'd book them.


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    Right now is probably the best set-up they have for tag team champions since the brand extension. One pair of tag champions who can go to either brand. Every team below wears similar tights except for Regal and Finlay, but you still have the theme of Great Britain for their tights. Goldust still wears his current gear, but Cody wears gold tights to go along with it. I love a team that has a team name and similar tights. It really makes them look as if they're one unit instead of two wrestlers put together. While you're at it, make sure each team has some sort of tag move. Whether it's a tag finisher or just some tag moves to wear down the opponent. When you look back at the three most recent tag team boom periods (86-89, 99-01, and 2002) you had mixture of types of teams. As fast as the Rockers were, you had a power team like Demolition, a big man team in Twin Towers and pure technical team in the Brainbusters. It allowed matches to feel different each time you watched the same team.

    Lengths of feuds is also important to be kept a mixed bag. As long of a feud as the Dudleys had with the Hardys, they also had shorter feuds with the Radicalz, Right to Censor and Spike Dudley. In the middle of a long tag feud, you should have a couple of short feuds going on. Once you reach the climax of the long tag feud, a different long feud with two other tag teams should already be on their second match together. When a heel team has had the tag titles for a long time, I want to see a new face team pushed up and upset the team to really get put over. The biggest mistake Vince made during the TLC days was that he didn't make any new teams. By time the last of the TLC main three teams were broken up when the brand extension was started, the WWE didn't have any new team that had credibility to really keep the division together. That's why SD had to create a tag division full of makeshift tag teams.

    Even though I already have the ten long term teams picked out, I'll also like to have a couple short lived main event makeshift teams. If used right, they can be so valuable. Think about how big it would have been to have DX win the belts from Jerishow before losing the titles on PPV (Very important) to Legacy, who would then hold the titles for a long time? It's a way of giving a tag team that doesn't have star power some major attention from some fans that may not pay much attention to them. Sadly, with the likes of DX, Rated RKO, John Cena and Shawn Michaels and others, we haven't had a good example of a makeshift main event team that did much for the division. Unless we count Jerishow who did a good job except for their title loss didn't mean much.

    The ultimate goal for a tag team division is to have it be so over that it could actually main event a B-PPV show. Even though it was never done, I'm sure the TLC teams could have main evented a No Mercy or something. Had SD had the brand PPV's in 2002, an Angle/Benoit vs Guerreros or Edge/Mysterio would have been more than perfect to be the main event. If you can actually defend the tag titles on PPV in the main event and not lose money, you did a great job. This is one area in which ROH has absolutely destroyed the WWE in.

    ShowMiz
    (The Big Show and The Miz)

    The Hart Dynasty
    (David Hart Smith and Tyson Kidd)

    The Dude Busters
    (Zack Ryder, Trent Barreta and Caylen Croft)

    Cryme Tyme - The Remix~!
    (JTG and Slam Master J)

    Poetry in Motion
    (Matt Hardy and Justin Gabriel)

    Blue Bloods
    (William Regal and Finlay)

    Straight Edge Society
    (Luke Gallows and bald yet still bearded Mike Knox)

    Golden Dreams
    (Cody Rhodes and Goldust)

    The A-Listers
    (MVP and David Otunga)

    Team Work
    (Daniel Bryan and Kaval)

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by N. Quincy Talent View Post
    I can make up seven.

    William Regal and a heel Daniel Bryan
    MVP and Kofi Kingston
    Sheamus and Drew McIntyre (The UK: United Killers)
    Dolph Ziggler and Curt Hawkins (New Age Hollywood Blondes)
    William Regal and Wade Barrett
    Mike Knox and Vance Archer
    Evan Bourne and Primo Colon
    Sheamus isn't from the UK.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShockmaster View Post
    Sheamus isn't from the UK.
    Ireland Is part of the UK

    ShowMiz (Miz & Show)

    Hart Dynasty

    Kofi & Shelton

    Ziggler & Hawkins

    Regal & Finlay

    I'll think of more later
    Last edited by CGS; 04-06-2010 at 12:27 PM.


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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    There are plenty of options for WWE to have a quality tag team division. Ideally I'd like for one show to have a women's division and one to have a tag team division. But for now I'll name as many tag teams part time or full time as I can/make up a few. I will try not to use rookies though they could always be used in the part time section.

    ShoMiz - Could be part time
    The Big Show and The Miz

    The Hart Dynasty
    Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith

    The Dudebusters
    Caylen Croft and Trent Barretta

    The Highflyers (lame name I know) - Could be part time
    Evan Bourne and Primo Colon

    Cool Warriors (again, lame) - Could be part time
    Carlito and Chavo Guerrero

    The World's Strongest Tag Team - Could be part time
    Mark Henry and Chris Masters

    I'd like to point out, any combination of Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Primo Colon, and Yoshi Tatsu could work seeing as they're all kayfabe friends and similar styles. So you could have two teams, or just one of any of the two you choose.

    Eurasian Connection (LAME)
    Vladimir Kozlov and Santino Marella

    Truth and Wisdom
    R-Truth and John Morrison

    Straight Edge Society
    Bald Bearded Mike Knox *love the idea* and Luke Gallows

    Plus there are other teams who could be thrown together with guys like Shelton, JTG, and Slam Master J. Really, WWE have plenty of pairings they COULD form, they would just need to do it. That said, WWE could still have a solid division if they actually tried. Plus bringing in a new team or two so not every team is just a makeshift pairing.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by CGS View Post
    Ireland Is part of the UK

    ShowMiz (Miz & Show)

    Hart Dynasty

    Kofi & Shelton

    Ziggler & Hawkins

    Regal & Finlay

    I'll think of more later
    No. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Republic of Ireland is not. Thus:

    Finlay = from the UK, as he is from Belfast, Northern Ireland.
    Sheamus = from Republic of Ireland, which is separate.
    Last edited by Shock; 04-06-2010 at 01:19 PM.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShockmaster View Post
    No. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Republic of Ireland is not. Thus:

    Finlay = from the UK, as he is from Belfast, Northern Ireland.
    Sheamus = from Republic of Ireland, which is separate.
    My Bad thought he was from Northern Ireland.


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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    I figured the same. Doesn't change my pairing though.

    And someone said JTG and Slam Master J. This was my first thought when Shad turned on him.
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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheKiller View Post
    There are plenty of options for WWE to have a quality tag team division. Ideally I'd like for one show to have a women's division and one to have a tag team division. But for now I'll name as many tag teams part time or full time as I can/make up a few. I will try not to use rookies though they could always be used in the part time section.

    ShoMiz - Could be part time
    The Big Show and The Miz

    The Hart Dynasty
    Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith

    The Dudebusters
    Caylen Croft and Trent Barretta

    The Highflyers (lame name I know) - Could be part time
    Evan Bourne and Primo Colon

    Cool Warriors (again, lame) - Could be part time
    Carlito and Chavo Guerrero

    The World's Strongest Tag Team - Could be part time
    Mark Henry and Chris Masters

    I'd like to point out, any combination of Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Primo Colon, and Yoshi Tatsu could work seeing as they're all kayfabe friends and similar styles. So you could have two teams, or just one of any of the two you choose.

    Eurasian Connection (LAME)
    Vladimir Kozlov and Santino Marella

    Truth and Wisdom
    R-Truth and John Morrison

    Straight Edge Society
    Bald Bearded Mike Knox *love the idea* and Luke Gallows

    Plus there are other teams who could be thrown together with guys like Shelton, JTG, and Slam Master J. Really, WWE have plenty of pairings they COULD form, they would just need to do it. That said, WWE could still have a solid division if they actually tried. Plus bringing in a new team or two so not every team is just a makeshift pairing.

    Who is gonna represent the asian part of the Eurasian Connection?
    As far as I know Italy and Russia are both European countries. Other than that I think you have some good teams set up there.
    A couple Ideas I have:
    Skip Sheffield and Jimmy Wang Yang- They can have some redneck gimmick
    Yoshi Tatsu and Kung Fu Naki- Kaientai 2.0
    Wade Barrett and William Regal- I dont know what youd call them but they could kick the Brit outta you
    Edge and Christian for nostalgic value
    Daniel Bryan and C. M. Punk- wont happen but would be awesome
    Kane and Evan Bourne- Will have the same dynamic as Kane/RVD or Showmiz
    Finlay and Sheamus w/ Hornswoggle- The Lucky Charms
    Jack Swagger and Chris Jericho - Dont know what youd call them (Team Jagger?) but I think they would make a good team

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Russian is part of Eurasian hence I put that name. Doesn't really matter to me what you call it though.

    Hate the idea of Yoshi teaming with Funaki. Yoshi is better than jobbing.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheKiller View Post
    Russian is part of Eurasian hence I put that name. Doesn't really matter to me what you call it though.

    Hate the idea of Yoshi teaming with Funaki. Yoshi is better than jobbing.

    If he were to be teamed with Kofi, Bourne or Primo he would be on the job squad as well

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Maybe, maybe not. Bourne may actually be pushed at some point, and Kofi is often pushed then pushed back down.

    Primo... yeah.. <.<

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    A Bourne and Yoshi tag team would be awesome.

    Also I have a great name for a Sheamus and McIntyre tag team: The Celtic Killers. Or Celtic Warriors, which ever sounds better.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Bourne/Yoshi
    Zeke/Shad
    Chavo/Primo

    I don't see why WWE doesn't build on a tag team division when there are so many underutilized guys on the roster just coasting by without bringing any real significance to the shows.

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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    The problem isn't so much the lack of tag teams or the lack of creative pairings (that has been quickly solved in this thread alone), the problem is that the interchangeable heel tag team is fodder and the brunt of the jokes for RAW Top Face A and Smackdown Top Face B. For one thing I would give ShowMiz some fucking opponents. GOOD opponents. CREDIBLE opponents. Opponents that have proven themselves and have earned it through the booking.

    Not Ron Killings and JoMo, in other words.


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    Re: Redo the Tag Division

    Until they actually have a credible tag team they have to keep going against thrown together teams like Truth and Wisdom. The closest thing they have right now is the Hart Dynasty if they build them right.

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