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Old 05-16-2008, 01:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

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That's good gay people are the exact same as straight, no better no worse, no different at all. If religions can't accept that than they shouldn't be allowed to marry straight people, marry all or marry none.
I obviously do not agree.

Christianity is a valid religion and Ministers should not be forced to go against their religion.

The argument could be made that this is a violation of the Separation of Church and State. They are in effect telling them how they conduct activities in their Church.


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Old 05-16-2008, 01:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

Marriage itself is a tradition based in religion.

To force a minister or priest to violate their beliefs is no better then not allowing gays to marry if you want to get technical Suffy.

I am all for equal rights (even though I strongly believe against homosexuality) but gay marriage itself should be done in a court house or other sanctioned areas.

Leave it out of the church.

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Old 05-16-2008, 03:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

Agreed with Joe and Dak here.

Honestly, it goes against what is said in the Bible, so as a Catholic I cannot agree with it being in the church. I can't think of why a priest would agree to marry a gay couple anyway.

I wonder what percentage of gay couples would actually WANT to get married in a church anyway? Maybe it's high, I dunno.

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Old 05-16-2008, 03:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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It's been like that for years here in Toronto Canada. I have nothing bad or good to say about gays. Just as long as they don't try to get fresh with me. To each is own...
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

I don't see how any one can be against gay marriage, forget the bible, these are people, human beings, just like you, just like myself who love one another.

This is no different than any heterosexual relationship you are in the feelings are the exact same, they only want what you are allowed. They aren't asking for more, they don't want your money, your possessions your anything, they just want the same rights you have.

You are discriminating against people by not allowing them to marry it's basically the same thing as slavery not allowing people to do what they want. Common law isn't the same they just want what you have, that's all.

I really don't understand at all how someone can be against gay marriage, people are people no matter what.




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Old 05-16-2008, 09:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

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I don't see how any one can be against gay marriage, forget the bible, these are people, human beings, just like you, just like myself who love one another.

This is no different than any heterosexual relationship you are in the feelings are the exact same, they only want what you are allowed. They aren't asking for more, they don't want your money, your possessions your anything, they just want the same rights you have.

You are discriminating against people by not allowing them to marry it's basically the same thing as slavery not allowing people to do what they want. Common law isn't the same they just want what you have, that's all.

I really don't understand at all how someone can be against gay marriage, people are people no matter what.
If they can come up with something where it won't happen in a Church I can accept it.

I will never support it in a Church.

Marriage is historically known as a religous issue. I think they should come up with something where they have the same rights as married people without calling it marriage. That way both sides can give a little.


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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

Why should gays have to give anything? They are people...they are entitled to the rights every other person enjoys.




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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

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How is it you're looking for gay people?

im not looking for them. it seems that when im driving alot of gays ride the bus. plus at one of the main station there is always trannies there its pretty wierd.

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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

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Why should gays have to give anything? They are people...they are entitled to the rights every other person enjoys.
So what do you want?

Do you want every Christian to say the Bible is wrong, that it is o.k. to be gay, and recognize gay marriage?

Not gonna happen.

Christians do not have to recognize gay marriage and they should not have to. That is their religous beliefs and the government cannot tell them what to believe.


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Re: Gay marriage wins in California

But you guys (Dak, Joe, Jayman) are fine with hetero-Atheist marriage, right? What's the difference?

When I get married one day -- like millions and millions of others -- it's gonna be with zero regard for God or for whatever supposed "institutions" came along with the idea of marriage in the first place.
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