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Rep Power: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Economic Stimulus Package Any thoughts on the stimulus package? I like the money I'll be getting back, but I don't think it's going to help the economy at all. Quote:
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Rep Power: 50 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package It won't help the economy at all. As long as our government keeps spending like it is, nothing will help. | |
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Rep Power: 50 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package A real economic stimulus package. Quote:
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Rep Power: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package Quote:
I don't agree with repealing Sarbanes Oxley though... mainly because I had to study that fucker in about 5 different classes. Sarbanes Oxley contains several restrictive clauses that result in companies becoming much more ethical. It was a direct response to Enron and MCI/UUNet failing to maintain proper Accounting records. | ||
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Rep Power: 33 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package I think I read somewhere that when Bush did this in 2001, like 50% of Americans either put their money in the bank or used it to pay down debt. Thus, it didnt really have as much of an effect as Bush intended. Perhaps thats why they doubled the size of it. It only works if people will actually spend the money I also agree with Terry about Sarbanes-Oxley. It's costly, but it's a necessary evil. It fights corporate fraud, and we need that. | |
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Rep Power: 33 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package Oen economic paper, by Matthew Shapiro and Joel Slemrod came to the foloowing conclusion: Many households received income tax rebates in 2001 of $300 or $600. These rebates represented advance payments of the tax cut from the new 10 percent tax bracket. Based on a survey of a representative sample of households, this paper finds that only 22 percent of households receiving the rebate would spent it. Instead, they would either save it or use it to pay off debt. This very low rate of spending represents a striking break with past behavior, which would have suggested a much higher rate of spending. The low spending rate implies that the tax rebate provided a very limited stimulus to aggregate demand. But another paper by Jonathon Parker and Nocholas Souleles concluded: We find that households spent about 20-40 percent of their rebates on non-durable goods during the three-month period in which their rebates were received, and roughly another third of their rebates during the subsequent three-month period. The implied effects on aggregate consumption demand are significant. The estimated responses are largest for households with relatively low liquid wealth and low income, consistent with liquidity constraints. --------------------- So, it depends on who you ask. | |
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Rep Power: 50 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package The argument against the Sarbanes Oxley Act is as follows: Quote:
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Rep Power: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Economic Stimulus Package Well, US Corporations are at a competitive disadvantage due to a number of Acts, like the Wagner Act, however just like the Sarbanes Oxley Act, if repealed would likely lead to abuse and corruption again. Sarbanes Oxley is a necessary evil as it establishes some accountability, and checks over publicly traded companies. Because Sarbanes Oxley didn't exist prior to 2002 thousands of people lost their entire life savings, their retirement, and the lucky ones, lost just a couple dollars they had invested. Just imagine if you had a 401k plan with Enron, or if you were an Enron shareholder. One day, you can't wait to retire. The next day, you know retirement is never going to come. | |
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