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Old 12-14-2007, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What Obama Got Wrong

WHAT HE GOT WRONG: "I don't want to wake up four years from now and discover that we still have more young black men in prison than in college."

Barack Obama, rally in Harlem, Nov. 29 --

Obama has repeated this false claim to predominantly African American audiences, even after The Washington Post pointed out the mistake to his campaign. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 106,000 African American men ages 18 to 24 were in federal or state prisons at the end of 2005. An additional 87,000 were temporarily held in local jails in mid-2006. According to 2005 census data, 530,000 African American men in this age group were in college.

Black male college students outnumber black male prisoners even if the age group is expanded to 30 or 35. The Obama campaign has not responded to several requests for statistical data to support the senator's remarks, and it has not explained a similar claim that he made to an NAACP audience on July 12.

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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

I don't think he means it literally.

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Old 12-14-2007, 12:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

The point of his message is still accurate.

This was just nit picking imo.




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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

Actually it is inaccurate, and it sells African Americans short.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

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Actually it is inaccurate, and it sells African Americans short.
Maybe so but he's expressing the desire to see less blacks in prison.

That's really all I took away from this.

I chalked this up to bad research but good intentions on his part when I read this.




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That is the single worst term ever coined.

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

Why?
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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

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Maybe so but he's expressing the desire to see less blacks in prison.

That's really all I took away from this.

I chalked this up to bad research but good intentions on his part when I read this.
I would agree. Bill Cosby has said something similar...

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They’re standing on the corner and they can’t speak English. I can’t even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain’t, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be… And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it’s important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can’t be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we’ve got these knuckleheads walking around. The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what? And they won’t spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn’t know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward: Isn’t that a sign of something gone wrong? People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn’t that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn’t it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from? We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don’t know a thing about Africa. With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person’s problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different ‘husbands’ — or men or whatever you call them now. We have millionaire football players who cannot read. We have million-dollar basketball players who can’t write two paragraphs. We as black folks have to do a better job. Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

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Yes I remember when that came out and Bill Cosby got flack from the black community over it.

I think the man was being honest and I agree with him completely.

He is a great man imo. I've always thought he was one of the most intelligent comedians around.




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Re: What Obama Got Wrong

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Yes I remember when that came out and Bill Cosby got flack from the black community over it.

I think the man was being honest and I agree with him completely.

He is a great man imo. I've always thought he was one of the most intelligent comedians around.
I feel the same way.

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