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Old 12-05-2005, 04:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What the hell are talking about?

Britain and America did have concentration camps through the war, they admitted that, but you fail to distinguish between a concentration camp and a death camp which Auschwitz was. A Concentration camp is where you put people to work who were captured PoWs. We know this, its in hundreds of text books. If you mean death camps then of course we will now if they existed, do you know how big these camps were. You can't simply dismantle them and ignore they ever happened. Auchwitz covers three sites ranging over a few KMs squared.

Yes the Allies had ariel shots of Auschwitz we know this but its hard to get to a camp when you have no landing platform which was the whol point of D Day, how did you expect them to get their, jump from the sky? Again we know this its in hundreds of books.?


Also the US knew that a Japanese attack was inevitable, they blockaded their oil supply which was choking them of vital resources. They simply didn;t know when and even if they did unless they had a few days notice which was never gonna happen, they still would have been sitting ducks to the Japanese air assualt.

Also the statement that History is written by the winner has no substance. At all, please try and justify your statement seeing as historians from around the world write books, articles and tv docs about the roles of various countries.

Are you trying to tell me that German Historians do not write about the Nazi rule in Germany because they lost the war. Thats preposterous.

We do not know everything, but if you care to and know where to look the answers are all their.

PS, what the hell are you talking about impeachment charges for, did you make that up?
Ok to put it in language you will understand:
Concentration camp = Death Camp
is what Britian and the US had.

No other points you make have any backing at all, which is the whole point of my rant. You can watch you're History channel, CNN or whatever god damn pro American bias crap you wanna watch or read but at the end of the day most of the stuff is lies.

As a matter of fact can you reference the oil supply theory?
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Ok to put it in language you will understand:
Concentration camp = Death Camp
is what Britian and the US had.

No other points you make have any backing at all, which is the whole point of my rant. You can watch you're History channel, CNN or whatever god damn pro American bias crap you wanna watch or read but at the end of the day most of the stuff is lies.

As a matter of fact can you reference the oil supply theory?
Sad, misinformed and unintelligent argument.

To put this in language you will understand:

You do not know what you are talking about.

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Old 12-05-2005, 04:22 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Sad, misinformed and unintelligent argument.

To put this in language you will understand:

You do not know what you are talking about.

What exactly is unintelligent about it? You really don't believe that the media/anything in the US are unbias do you?

After 9/11 CNN showed pictures of the Palestine people dancing in the streets burning the US flag.
Pictures came from the Gulf War.

In the Gulf war they claimed to use lazer guided bomps (the same that they are talking about now). so as to avoid civilan casualties.
Less than 8% of the bombs used were.

Again the Gulf War when Sadam missiled Israel pictures were shown of a girl covered in blood.
She turned out to have lived in the US all her life. Daughter of an ambassator.

Gulf War- Reports that Iraq soliders were stealing incubators that sick babys were using. More lies from the media.

How can you not see that all this is just simply brianwashing?
Thus I ask is it you that has the unintelligent argument my friend.


Also a side note. As anyone noticed how political The Simpsons have become?
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:28 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:35 PM   #55 (permalink)
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What exactly is unintelligent about it? You really don't believe that the media/anything in the US are unbias do you?

After 9/11 CNN showed pictures of the Palestine people dancing in the streets burning the US flag.
Pictures came from the Gulf War.

In the Gulf war they claimed to use lazer guided bomps (the same that they are talking about now). so as to avoid civilan casualties.
Less than 8% of the bombs used were.

Again the Gulf War when Sadam missiled Israel pictures were shown of a girl covered in blood.
She turned out to have lived in the US all her life. Daughter of an ambassator.

Gulf War- Reports that Iraq soliders were stealing incubators that sick babys were using. More lies from the media.

How can you not see that all this is just simply brianwashing?
Thus I ask is it you that has the unintelligent argument my friend.


Also a side note. As anyone noticed how political The Simpsons have become?

The media in the United States are not the only people to report on things. Many other news agencies in other countries report things too.

And no, not everything is un-biased in the U.S. media, but not everything is biased either. I think you will find that in any country.


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Old 12-05-2005, 04:58 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Ok to put it in language you will understand:
Concentration camp = Death Camp
is what Britian and the US had.

No other points you make have any backing at all, which is the whole point of my rant. You can watch you're History channel, CNN or whatever god damn pro American bias crap you wanna watch or read but at the end of the day most of the stuff is lies.

As a matter of fact can you reference the oil supply theory?
Ok, a number of things, 1.) I'm British, 2.) What oil theory are you talking about? 3.) Are you insinuating a death camp is the same as a concentration camp or did you mean death camp?

Lies are unsubstantiated myths made up by impartial people, every thing I stated above has hundreds of articles, books, sources both primary and secondary and documentary evidence to support it.

Btw Disco, I'm a trainee History teacher who specialises in Chemical and Biological Warfare, I guess that does make me a bit creepy.
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:56 PM   #57 (permalink)
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What codes are you talking about Miakal? I've not heard of that, I thought the pictures came from the bombing raids over Poland? Are you talking about Enigma codes because they were primarily to prevent U Boats sinking supply ships?

I'm intrigued now.
It was something about the ULTRA codes that Britain did. As far as I understand it, none of the information was exactly concrete either. For example, I believe the camps in Poland were thought to be finished as far as killings were to go. The ones in Auschwitz were more sketchy. The British knew what was being sent there but not a lot was known about the actual activities there. I remember that they learned about gas masks being sent there a long with a supply of gas but this, to the people in charge of intelligence, didn't exactly mean that the killings would take place.

BBB, I have no idea what you are talking about with anything. America and the media are biased. Yeah, what's your point? Where are your sources? It seems like you've just gotten all your information from some nutjob website. Does it say that George W. Bush constructed 9/11 with his lincoln logs too?

America has done a ton of bad shit. But what's your point? Where is your thesis? Do you know who first wanted a superior Nordic race? America and the eugenics program. Hitler even praised America for how they handled the genetically weak, several times. The American government used to steralize and euthanasize large amounts of people at a time. Even after World War II, after we knew about what happened in the death camps, we still steralized groups of people.

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Old 12-07-2005, 05:14 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:31 PM   #59 (permalink)
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