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The Official Wrestlingclique Wrestling Awards 2011 - THE WINNERS

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    No, he was fine in 2010 and he's fine in 2011. I find it ****ing stupid to even debate how much Ziggler may or may not have improved in 2011 when it's so clear that Bully Ray has improved far more. Ziggler was a positive aspect of virtually every year he's been in the WWE. You can only improve so much.

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    Then what are you debating if you're not denying that Bully Ray has improved more? Ziggler was already good and the amount he may have improved in 2011 is pretty minor when you compare it to Bully Ray and Mark Henry. Hell, you could even say Gunner has improved more. Giving Ziggler this award is comparable to giving most improved to CM Punk. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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    I think I was the lone Kevin Kelly vote. I considered Nigel, but he's only been around since September and what makes him good on commentary is mainly his great one-liners. However, Kelly has been awesome from a play-by-play standpoint since he started with ROH. He puts over the storylines, the wrestlers and sells the emotion of the match and seems genuinely excited to be there.

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    Re: The Official Wrestlingclique Wrestling Awards 2011 - THE WINNERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Rage View Post
    Booker T is tremendous and should have won best commentator. I'm not sure if most would agree with you Crocker. Certainly on here a lot of the people who hated Booker at first seem to like him now, and then there's people like me and Ken who have always loved him. He's one of the best things about Smackdown to me, and Smackdown's an awesome show.
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    Re: The Official Wrestlingclique Wrestling Awards 2011 - THE WINNERS

    Jeff Hardy vs. Sting was at Victory Road, not Against All odds.

    I agree with most of these pretty much except for most improved. I thought Randy Orton improved a ton from 2010 to 2011. Dolph Ziggler has definitely improved (especially on the mic), but I still feel that Randy Orton should have won that award.

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    Booker T just isn't good at commentary. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call him terrible, but he's got a long way to go to be capable and is certainly light years from being tremendous. I went with Bubba Ray for Most Improved.

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    Re: The Official Wrestlingclique Wrestling Awards 2011 - THE WINNERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Rage View Post
    One way to find out (on WC at least):

    Do you like Booker T?

    I'm sure most on here will say they like him.
    You can like someone and still think they're terrible.

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