[Twist of lEMOn]

Originally Posted by Freak
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I love it for the Raps.

I've wanted Reggie for ages, its a great move for both sides.

Raps get a hustle player to come off the bench, grab boards and bring energy out the wazzoo. I'd venture to guess this means Pops is going to Maccabi and not resigning or Humph is way behind on rehab.

76ers get a 3 point shot which they needed sorely.

[Necro]

Shaq-to-Cavs talks ongoing

Talk between the Phoenix Suns and Cleveland Cavaliers of a trade that would have Shaquille O'Neal playing with LeBron James next season has not gone beyond the preliminary stages and no deal is imminent, two executives with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.

The clubs have not spoken within the past few days, but sources say talks of a possible trade involving O'Neal, Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic never completely died after it was first discussed in February.

O'Neal, 37, will make $20 million next season in the final year of his current deal, while Wallace will make $14 million in the last year of his contract and Pavlovic $4.9 million with only $1.5 million guaranteed.

The salary swap is close enough to make the trade work under the salary-cap guidelines, and the Suns would save $10 million in the transaction -- $4.5 million in salary and $5.5 million in luxury-tax payments.

They could save even more money if Wallace takes a buyout, a possibility that was raised when Wallace said he was considering retirement after the Cavs' Eastern Conference finals loss to the Orlando Magic.

If the Suns acquired him and bought out his contract for less than face value, they could lower their actual expenditures, although the full amount would still count toward their luxury-tax total.

Cavs GM Danny Ferry and Suns president Steve Kerr, former teammates in San Antonio, are good friends who speak often, and a possible Shaq trade has always remained on the back burner.

Cleveland aggressively pursued O'Neal in February, offering Wallace and Pavlovic. Phoenix was not interested in Wallace because his contract was not expiring and instead wanted Wally Szczerbiak.

Eventually, Phoenix pulled out of the deal because it wanted to see if the trio of O'Neal, Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire could make a deep playoff run under then newly-hired coach Alvin Gentry.

Now convinced that they are no longer contenders, the Suns fully intend to move one of their big contracts. With Stoudemire being a young building block and Nash a local icon, O'Neal, whose salary is the largest on the team, makes the most sense.

Deal would be solid for both.

[Celtics_Own]

I don't know if that deal will actually happen. There were talks of Pheonix also wanting Delonte West. With Ben Wallace retiring, or thinking about it, it wouldn't make sense for Pheonix to want them. Just be silly for them. Palvovic doesn't really help that them much to be honest. He isn't a stand out bench player. He is one of the players that are inconsistently good and make contributions occasionally. Cleveland definitely gains more then the Suns would.

[Twist of lEMOn]

Maybe I'm crazy but thats a terrible deal unless the Suns are getting a couple picks

[Necro]

Originally Posted by Celtics_Own
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I don't know if that deal will actually happen. There were talks of Pheonix also wanting Delonte West. With Ben Wallace retiring, or thinking about it, it wouldn't make sense for Pheonix to want them. Just be silly for them. Palvovic doesn't really help that them much to be honest. He isn't a stand out bench player. He is one of the players that are inconsistently good and make contributions occasionally. Cleveland definitely gains more then the Suns would.

Well I think it would be good for the Suns to save money. If they could save 10-15 million from that it wouldn't be bad. The Suns already know they can't win with the current team, so they might as well save money next year, and start rebuilding.

[Celtics_Own]

Well I was reading something that if they trade Shaq, they want basketball value. They don't want to just save money. With the Caliber player that he is, the suns are going to want someone in return. But yeah, either way, I don't really think the suns will do much with either team.