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Old 05-30-2009, 11:26 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

LeBron tries to get his team involved...and they jag.




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Old 05-30-2009, 11:27 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

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No the reason why I am saying this is because of all the Press Hype. All I heard when the Magic were winning it was oh Lebron is scoring this and Lebron is doing that. But no one talked about how impressive it was how they were Beating the favorites. It was all about Lebron. This finals has been determined pretty much for 4 months. And it didn't happen. Lebron is suppose to lead his team, that is what he is there for. That is why when he gets his team involved they win. Its his job to get his team into the game and get them pumped. That is why KG was such a great guy for us, thats what he did. Notice what happened to us when KG wasn't there? So yeah, this team needs a true leader because Lebron truly isn't a leader. At least in my honest opinion. I love the guy as a player, he is a great player, but he isn't a leader. That is why Cleveland can't win.

You can't compare who Lebron has to who Kevin Garnett has.

Garnett had Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.

Who did Lebron have honestly? Mo Williams?

Garnett increased the intensity on the defensive end, no doubt. But to say Lebron isn't a great leader is crazy. Magic are a tough match up no matter how you look at it, and Lebron didn't have the right people around him to get it done.

If the people around you don't pull through, and do what they need to, then obviously you aren't going to win. Lebron has shit around him.

The NBA wanted the Cavs Vs Lakers obviously.






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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

I know he didn't have a great team around him. But he also had 11 starting players on his whole roster. That is almost 3/4's of your team. They all pretty much have playoff experience and they know what it takes to win a championship. I really don't see Lebron's great Leadership, but he has a lot more time to develop. He was a better Leader this year when he was Last year. And I think you can compare KG to Lebron personally. I know he has to future Hall of Famers, but Lebron had good enough players to get it going. But they just didn't show up. I guess you can't really blame Lebron, but I want to say it just because of all the hype. But he could have score more then one point in the 4th quarter.







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Old 05-30-2009, 11:32 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I guess you can't really blame Lebron, but I want to say it just because of all the hype. But he could have score more then one point in the 4th quarter.

Kinda sure he was dog tired after carrying his team for 5 games.




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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

He had the chances to score, he had the wide open shots, he didn't get them to go. Bottom line, that is what he is paid to do. Yes he is tired, but he had his oppurtunity to do it. Thats why the Celtics lost to the Magic, they were dog tired. Paul should have carried the team but he couldn't. He is in the same boat as Lebron.







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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

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He had the chances to score, he had the wide open shots, he didn't get them to go. Bottom line, that is what he is paid to do. Yes he is tired, but he had his oppurtunity to do it. Thats why the Celtics lost to the Magic, they were dog tired. Paul should have carried the team but he couldn't. He is in the same boat as Lebron.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Paul doesn't and didn't have to carry his team.




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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

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I know he didn't have a great team around him. But he also had 11 starting players on his whole roster.

That is almost 3/4's of your team. They all pretty much have playoff experience and they know what it takes to win a championship.

Huh? What does that even mean?


I really don't see Lebron's great Leadership, but he has a lot more time to develop. He was a better Leader this year when he was Last year.

Lebron is what 24 years old. Michael Jordan didn't win his first championship
until what 6 years into the league.


And I think you can compare KG to Lebron personally. I know he has to future Hall of Famers, but Lebron had good enough players to get it going.

Kevin Garnett won his first title at around 32. 12 years into his NBA career. Name the great players Lebron had to help him win a a championship.

But they just didn't show up. I guess you can't really blame Lebron, but I want to say it just because of all the hype. But he could have score more then one point in the 4th quarter.

So you are judging the guy on one quarter now?






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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

What are you smoking? Without KG, he is the one to do it. He carried them through the first round along with Rondo. And he should have done it the Last game. I have seen him do it before and he is the one that could have made the difference in Game 7 but he didn't show up like he should have. He was tired. He should have been the one to take control and get going. But he didn't. He was the only one who could score offensively aside from Ray allen. But Ray decided to finally show up the last game.







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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

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He had the chances to score, he had the wide open shots, he didn't get them to go. Bottom line, that is what he is paid to do. Yes he is tired, but he had his oppurtunity to do it. Thats why the Celtics lost to the Magic, they were dog tired. Paul should have carried the team but he couldn't. He is in the same boat as Lebron.

Paul Pierce is not in the same boat as Lebron James. Paul Pierce is a great player, but will never be Lebron James. Pierce's legs were shot throughout the playoffs. In the end without Garnett the Celtic couldn't match up with the Magic.

Look at the NBA in general you can't win championships by yourself.






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Re: NBA 08/09 Season Discussion Thread

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What are you smoking? Without KG, he is the one to do it. He carried them through the first round along with Rondo. And he should have done it the Last game. I have seen him do it before and he is the one that could have made the difference in Game 7 but he didn't show up like he should have. He was tired. He should have been the one to take control and get going. But he didn't. He was the only one who could score offensively aside from Ray allen. But Ray decided to finally show up the last game.

The fact that Paul Pierce had Ray Allen and you are saying Pierce had to carry the Celtics doesn't make any sense.

Who does Lebron have compared to Ray Allen?






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