This is a discussion on Mark Teixeira........what's the big deal? within the North American Sports forums, part of the Sports Forums category; I really am blown away that there are teams out there willing to give this guy over 160 million over ...
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I really am blown away that there are teams out there willing to give this guy over 160 million over 8 years. Really blown away.
He is asking for A-Rod type money, yet if you ask me doesnt really compare to A-Rod as far as statistics go.
Is this just desperation on teams parts due to them trying to out do each other?
If I were in need of a first baseman and/or power hitting DH, why not save about 150 million bucks and just sign Jason Giambi? Granted Giambi is about half the player he used to be and isn't due for a fresh batch of steroids until probably the all star game To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
If you feel that Teixeira is worth the money some teams are reportedly willing to give him please let me know......
Yeah, sure they are pretty good and surely anyone would take a player of this caliber on their team. I just keep getting hung up on the 23-26 million a year FOR 8 YEARS.....
These are A-Rods "average" numbers. The difference between these two guys to me is that A-Rod has done if for over a decade. Mark has essentially done it 3 times.
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Let me know if you think I am off based. Is this just the going rate for players these days?
Personally I was the Red Sox (my favorite team and potential suitor for Teixeira) I would love to see them spend the money on Derek Lowe, Jason Varitek and a Giambi, Adam Dunn type. If that were the case you wouldnt even have to trade Mike Lowell.
I'm all over the place, but this was more to get the discussion going......
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Well he is a great switch hitter and good fielder as well. But i see what you are saying, that is a lot a lot of money to be throwing around for someone not named A-Rod.
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If you look at his overall stats all the way back he is pretty damn solid. I'd be worried to give anyone that big of a contract, but I guess if you have the money why not do it. I'm sure for bigger market teams like the Red Sox, & Yankees 160 million isn't that big of a deal.
I think though he has proven himself as a solid superstar, and can be a cornerstone for a franchise for years to come. With the team the Red Sox have though I think they could just get some solid players, and not worry about landing a superstar.
I'd love to see him go to a team like Washington, and see their team grow around him, and build.
What I don't really understand is the Red Sox supposedly offered him a 8 year deal.
The Red Sox tried for 6 years to dump the Manny Ramirez contract because it was deemed "too long term" and "too restricting", yet the want to do it all over again within months of getting out of a 8 year deal? Obviously it was a personality thing with Manny and his ability to take time off during the season and what not, but at the end of the day Mark Teixiera will be about 75% the player that Manny was the past 8 years over his next 8.
Teixiera just doesn't seem to warrant this type of Pujols, Manny, A-Rod type of deal.
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I don't know man.. I'm just saying.. what's the difference? Tex was going to get a long deal anyway you slice it and whether it's for $20M a year or $25M a year.. I just don't see a big difference.
He'll hit, he'll field, he'll do whatever you need him to do out of that slot in the order.
He's not going to be Manny Ramirez because few guys are.. Manny is a legendary hitter.. but you also can't give me more than a hand full of guys that are as valuable as Tex is at this point in time..
I think it's far crazier that the Yankees gave AJ Burnett $80M+ over 5.
The Sox need a big hitter too. The offense hasn't been the same without Manny and with Papi struggling.. He needs protection.
I think it's far crazier that the Yankees gave AJ Burnett $80M+ over 5.
Indeed.
I really thought I heard it wrong when that was originally reported. The calculator in your head starts whirling and you then get mad at your father for not putting a baseball in your hand everyday when you were younger. haha
It's just crazy when guys like Gil Meche makes 11 million dollars a year. It sets the bar so high for the actual good players that it gets redonkulous.
I understand the supply and demand aspect of it all and really at the end of the day we only have the owners and fans to blame. Owners shell it out to the players and fans continue to support them by buying up all their tickets, 8 dollar beers and 5 dollar hotdogs.
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Some economists have predicted that baseball is going to feel the effects of this recession soon enough, but it won't be in Boston and it won't be in New York so why should they care?? Those cities are far too rich.. there's more than enough of those folks to sellout the home games..
The thing I wonder is.. say the Red Sox, Yankees, and a few others continue to spend money like water.. they get better, everyone else gets worse or stays the same, we end up with only a few teams really in contention year in and year out.. more so than even now..
would the rest of the owners lobby for a salary cap? I think they one day might have to if this trend continues.. so then what? The MLBPA won't stand for it.. we'll probably be without baseball for a good season or two..
Yanks and Sox need to think of these things when they make these ridiculous signings. They need the other teams to compete to survive themselves..
"Value" of a player in most sports is relative. Its almost possible to truly determine accurately, because there are so many factors and it really can change from team to team. If a given player fills a position of significant need, or maybe adds desperately needed leadership, those kind of things add major "value" to a player for one team that might not be there when another team is looking at the same player. That's why "overpaying" is something teams are often willing to do.
In a basic sense, I would have to agree that Teixeira isn't worth the same money as the likes of A-Rod. But his basic value isn't too far below. When you consider that he's one of the best on the market right now in terms of hitting, defense, age, etc. Manny Ramirez is obviously a better pure hitter, but defense, age, and character are all questions, especially given Manny want a long-term deal.
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