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Old 04-09-2008, 01:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: fouling to win the game

By the way, Kansas.. yeah, they made 14 of their 15 free throws. I guess we should just continue to be subjected to athletes who don't realize the concept of a team game, huh?

You want to know what a real team looks like? Kansas had 7 different leading scorers over the course of the season.

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Old 04-09-2008, 01:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: fouling to win the game

While I'm on this.. how do you feel about an intentional walk in baseball? Do you guys think it's a strategic move or are the teams being pussies?

And.. how exactly would an offsides penalty give the opposing team another shot at winning the game?

Point is.. "You play to win the game"

Believe me, if you were a coach, you'd be utilizing the same strategy and if you didn't, you'd be out of a job. Sucks to be you.

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Old 04-09-2008, 02:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: fouling to win the game

Dude. How could you not have been cheering for Derrick Rose? That guy is fucking awesome.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: fouling to win the game

Because, behind UCONN, I've always rooted for Kansas since I was out there vacationing as a toddler. I have relatives in the area.

If Memphis had been playing anyone else, I probably would have been cheering for them. I love Rose especially.. although, if it came down to him and Stephen Curry, I'd probably root for Curry. What a sweet shot that kid has.

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Re: fouling to win the game

I don't even know who you are if you want to root for Stephen Curry after he beat Goergetown....


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Re: fouling to win the game

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Because, behind UCONN, I've always rooted for Kansas since I was out there vacationing as a toddler. I have relatives in the area.

If Memphis had been playing anyone else, I probably would have been cheering for them. I love Rose especially.. although, if it came down to him and Stephen Curry, I'd probably root for Curry. What a sweet shot that kid has.
Okay yeah, I'd root for Curry too, but I just love watching legit future superstars tear it up in college -- and Rose is an animal. I hope he goes to Seattle, and they somehow manage to remain in Seattle.

Also, from what I've read, Douglas-Roberts' best-case in the draft is probably somewhere between 13 and 18 -- as in, his flaws are definitely pronounced.
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Re: fouling to win the game

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You think it sucks when a team fouls on purpose? Well, I think it sucks when a team can't shoot a fucking free throw to save their lives and these are supposed to be the elite players in division I basketball and yet, they can't excel at the simplest of task.
And for the record, while I agree with most of your points in this thread, I object big-time here. All tournament, Memphis gutted it out and overachieved at the line; you can fault them for folding under pressure, but just imagine what that pressure must be like, and imagine being a kid in front of an international audience trying to swallow it.
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Re: fouling to win the game

Yes IBB's are pussy moves. When did I ever say they weren't?

You know Kansas did SO FUCKING WELL Defensively in that championship game that they had to foul to get back in the game. Sounds like they always play AMAZING Defense when you have to foul to win. Fouls are meant to be PENALTIES. I don't think PENALTIES should help you WIN a game.

What's so fucking hard to understand about that concept?

Yeah Memphis should've hit those free throws. And to be honest Memphis should've fouled whomever before the 3 pointer by the jayhawks Therefore only allowing them 2 points.

Oddly enough Momentum plays a big part in this game it's a new concept so I'll let that sink in. Kansas gained momentum by coming back. You're telling me if you were Derrick Rose you'd be just as fucking thrilled to play overtime as you were the rest of the game? Don't fucking kid yourself.

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Old 04-09-2008, 03:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: fouling to win the game

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Yes IBB's are pussy moves. When did I ever say they weren't?

You know Kansas did SO FUCKING WELL Defensively in that championship game that they had to foul to get back in the game. Sounds like they always play AMAZING Defense when you have to foul to win. Fouls are meant to be PENALTIES. I don't think PENALTIES should help you WIN a game.

What's so fucking hard to understand about that concept?

Yeah Memphis should've hit those free throws. And to be honest Memphis should've fouled whomever before the 3 pointer by the jayhawks Therefore only allowing them 2 points.

Oddly enough Momentum plays a big part in this game it's a new concept so I'll let that sink in. Kansas gained momentum by coming back. You're telling me if you were Derrick Rose you'd be just as fucking thrilled to play overtime as you were the rest of the game? Don't fucking kid yourself.
Chill out man, sound like you are going to go postal...
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Re: fouling to win the game

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Chill out man, sound like you are going to go postal...
No kidding.

SS, the old "FOULS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PENALTIES!!!!!" argument can be applied to any major team sport, really.

In hockey, teams absolutely serve certain penalties to set a physical tone for the game; in baseball, pitchers work the count in many different ways; in football, teams will take safeties, or desperation pass interference calls, or a host of hockey-like physical precedent-setting penalties.

It's strategy, and it's been part of the game for many, many, many years.
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