Dakstang

This comes from yahoo sports

1. Bitter Bill: Even the most cynical of football fans will readily acknowledge that Bill Belichick is a brilliant coach whose mastery of defensive strategy, character evaluation and building a team-oriented atmosphere is unrivaled. I'm one of those people who can attest that he actually possesses a personality and, at times, a sense of humor. But as his legend has grown, Belichick, rather than bask in his accomplishments, has appeared increasingly petty, vindictive and miserable. Watching him callously shove that photographer who was blocking his path to former assistant Eric Mangini following the Pats' playoff victory over the Jets – and, after the obviously insincere hug, pushing his way past another cameraman – was a major turnoff to many fans. His joyless blowoff of the popular Tony Dungy during their postgame handshake in November, whatever his reasons, showed once again that Belichick isn't all that stressed about how others perceive him. Just as Barry Bonds' prickly nature wins him no points with media members and most fans outside of San Francisco, the lack of warmth projected by Belichick (even in relation to his typically tight peers) causes anyone not already cheering for the Patriots to resent his success.

2. Reformed Randy: Until joining the Patriots in April, wideout Randy Moss was a symbol for everything most sports fans detest. Brazenly defending his "I play when I want to play" mantra, squirting Gatorade at an official in a playoff game, walking out on his team before a game ended … Moss, in Minnesota, was hardly an endearing figure. Then he went to Oakland and got even worse, ripping his employers with regularity and openly dogging it on the field. Yet after last season, Tom Brady actively wooed Moss and, once the receiver arrived in New England, he began lauding him for being a "great teammate" and a "great leader." Very few people, outside of some judgmental wackos from the religious right, have anything negative to say about Brady, but it's disturbing to hear the greatest player in football praise Moss in such over-the-top fashion. Belichick, too, chimed in, citing Moss' "professionalism" as a reason the receiver would fit in with the Patriots. Even worse has been listening to the rationalizations of most Pats fans, who would absolutely detest Moss were he a) on another team or b) on their team in a pickup game. Which brings us to …

3. Patriot Propaganda: Somehow, it's not enough that New England has the best owners, coach and quarterback, not to mention an accomplished talent evaluator (Scott Pioli) and a slew of really, really good players who understand and follow their assignments. The Pats also have to proclaim that their culture is superior. (And please, spare me your emails claiming this is a media creation; I've got the quotes to back it up.) It's true that the Patriots have a solid locker room full of respected leaders, and that's a major reason guys like Moss and Corey Dillon have put aside turbulent pasts and thrived in that environment. But this whole "winning with class" thing? Barf. First of all, the Pats talk plenty on the field – even Brady (Tom, not Nancy) got into with some Steelers last Sunday, the way Joe Montana used to in his early years. They talk trash before and after games as well, though usually under the guise that they were provoked by an opponent's disrespectful words. They also taunt; just ask LaDainian Tomlinson, who took such great offense to the postgame behavior of some Pats players after their playoff victory at San Diego in January that he called Belichick "classless." Never mind whether LT's comments were justified; just know that many outside observers – and players for other NFL teams – are of the opinion that the Pats' holier-than-thou self-image is garbage.

4. Dynasty Disease: Some of the negativity toward the Pats is a simple result of their amazing run of excellence, and in an era that is supposed to have built-in mechanisms against such sustained prosperity. Since the merger, at various times, the Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers and other big winners have felt the wrath of the masses purely for seeming unbeatable, in the same way that Notre Dame, the Yankees and the Lakers and Celtics have in their respective realms. Call it jealousy, boredom, a natural tendency to root for the underdog or a combination of all three – whatever. The bottom line is that the Pats have become so dominant that many fans of other teams are eager to see them fall.

5. Spygate Surliness: You didn't think we'd skip over the great scandal of 2007, did you? It's true that some people flat-out hate the Pats because, after a team employee was caught videotaping the Jets' coaches giving signals from the sidelines in the season opener despite a clear directive from the league banning such acts, they view Belichick as a cheater whose previous successes are thus tainted in the same way Bonds' (and now, apparently, Roger Clemens' and so many others' in baseball) were. But I'd say a larger group reviles Belichick and, to some degree, his players for the way they've reacted to "Spygate." Though he was fined $500,000 by the NFL, and the organization was docked another $250,000 and a first-round draft choice, Belichick never came clean. The coach tried to hide behind a technicality while insisting he hadn't intentionally violated the rule. Then, beginning with the team's Week 2 blowout of the Chargers, the Pats adopted an attitude that cast themselves as the aggrieved party – a "how-dare-you-question-our-excellence?" middle finger to the world.

6. Obnoxious Overkill: There has been a great deal of debate as to whether the Pats have run up the score in some of their lopsided victories, and rather than get into the validity of such charges, I'm simply going to note that the perception exists. It was one thing to score a gratuitous touchdown against the Cowboys, probably the league's second-most-hated franchise. But when New England appeared to pour it on against Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs in a 52-7 thrashing of the Redskins, a lot of people thought Belichick and his players were rubbing it in – and it rubbed them the wrong way. Again, it would be one thing if a team were perceived as running up scores against overmatched opponents. But when that team also attempts to position itself as the emblem of class, expect a serious backlash from the masses.

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Twist of lEMOn

You should post the parts about Mrs Brady lol they made he sound like a straight up bitch, atleast she cares about her kiddo >.>

anyways half that stuff is beating a dead horse, but the Class part I concur with.

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CM Diddy

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1.) Bill is bitter because he motivates himself and his team with the "Us against the world" mentality. Its how he got to where he is, and its how he does not allow himself and his team to grow complacent with success.

And as far as snuffing Dungy, Dungy was the guy quoted comparing Bill to Barry Bonds, although his team (and Bill Polian in particular) resort to shady shit themselves, including Jacking up heat, pumping in artifical crowd noise, and lobbying to have rules put in to make it easier for Indys offense. (But...ther too physical with our recievers!) Now, im all for doing waht it takes to win, and im not holdong any of those things against Indy, but just stop with the "we're the good guys" bullshit.

2.) Brady being heralded as the greatest player in football over Manning makes me happy.

TBH, I di NOT expect what Ive seen out of Moss, I thought he was going to be average at best, and primarily used as a deep running decoy which would allow Welker and Stallworth to gobble up receptions. BUT, Ill take it. and Look at Moss now, he;s blocking good, and running out routes when his number isnt called.

3.)Maybe they trash talk on the field, but how the hell do you hold it against them? Every team LOVES T.O.'s and Ocho Cinco's dances, and loves every other part of celebrations/brashness, but when NE does it its not OK?

4.)I can agree with this. As much as I loved the "underdog" Patriots, we have now gained the "New York Yankees of football" image, and I cant blame people for hating it.

5.)Well, now that the Jets themselves have been implicated twice for cheating this year, can we finally forget about this bullshit? For the last time, NE didnt get nailed or fined or punished for icheating, or for taping coaches, they just got fined for having a camera in the wrong place. IT IS LEGAL TO TAPE COACHES, just not where the camera was.

6.) Again, this is something other teams do and no one cares. SF in the 90's did it, So did Dallas, even this year other teams have slaughtered other squads, and nooone cries. But when NE does it, its terrible.


I dont know if your trying to imply Brady as a bad father, I dunno. But as far as class goes, you forget about how non-classy your CHargers have been at times, me thinks!


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Toaster Oven

7. Fans, None of them will admit the Patriots do anything wrong. Some are logistic, but there are plenty of Blinded homers who believe the mentality, Us vs. the World. And a lot of people can't stand that.

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Twist of lEMOn

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lol Mrs Brady = Nancy Brady or whatever he name is, simply implying that the article thats from made her sound like abit of a bitch but loved her kid. which for the most part is good, I dunno where chu got brady as bad daddy from lol

also most of the Chargers don't claim to be classy (LT is the probably one of the few), Patriots spew about how classy they are after every game. Which is what bugs me since if you watch there games, even Tom Brady to a certain extent isn't classy. Now respectable is a different thing all together because they are, classy hell no.

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Necro

This whole thread stinks of jealousy. Jesus. It's outright funny to read some of the stuff people write about. Pats are a dynasty. People need to get over it.

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Dakstang

I think that attitude right there ^ is part of the reason non-Patriots fans hate the Patriots.


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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.

Necro

Hows my attitude supposed to be? It's a fact. Sorry I guess?

lol... Should I be more greatful? Or hmm I dont know.

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Toaster Oven

*if they win the super bowl this year or next.

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Necro

lol i'm pretty sure 3 superbowls in 4 years is a dynasty in football...

I'm confused how people should act though. If your team won 3 superbowls in 4 years how would you react?

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