[Blitzkrieg]

Lets look at Pujols though. And yes, this is me making excuses for guys already as I clearly don't care if anyone does steroids or not. Even if the guy is on this list and was a rather unknown in the minors.. how does steroids alone turn a guy into the most feared hitter in baseball??

[Blitzkrieg]

I figured this would happen and is is a big reason why I've never jumped on Bonds. And if you look at the current stars, how do we know they aren't using HGH? It's all fucked up inside and out, so I stopped caring a long time ago and try to look at the bright side.. bright side being there's millions of minor leaguers who are all roided up and they don't do shit in the majors..

[Danny Diamond]

I just looked over the whole Mitchell report (the actual one)

Pujols and Varitek arent on it at all.

You can download it yourself here....

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/...ell_report.pdf

It's in PDF form

[Blitzkrieg]

Actually, about half the guys you have listed here aren't on the actual report lol

[Suntan Superman]

I'm still impartial if they used or not. My point is, I was entertained, I enjoyed it. I don't really care. Was it right? No. Do I condone it? No. But at this point, it's almost a moot point.

[Slimdust]

This is the Official list. from espn.com

According to the Mitchell Commission report, here are players mentioned and how they are linked to performance enhancing substances:

Information Learned During this Investigation Concerning BALCO and Major League Baseball (8 players/ 3 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "I requested interviews of all the major league players who had been publicly implicated in the BALCO case."

Marvin Benard
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde

Information Regarding Purchases or Use of Performance Enhancing Substances by Players in Major League Baseball (53 players/ 18 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "The following discussion is organized in roughly chronological order. Records do not exist to document every transaction described by witnesses. [Kirk] Radomski stated that, with one exception noted below, the payments he received from professional baseball players were for performance enhancing substances, as opposed to personal training or other services, and this assertion was confirmed by those players who agreed to speak with us about their dealings with him."
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagné
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Exavier "Nook" Logan

Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball (16 players, 8 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "Since the initial news reports of the raid by New York and Florida law enforcement officials on Signature Pharmacy and several rejuvenation centers, the names of several current and former major league players have appeared in the media as alleged purchasers of performance enhancing substances through these operations. These include:"

Rick Ankiel
Paul Byrd
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Gary Matthews, Jr.
Scott Schoeneweis
David Bell
Jose Canseco
Jason Grimsley
Darren Holmes
John Rocker
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard

[Blitzkrieg]

Oh WOW!!! Groundbreaking!!! FUCKING AWESOME!! How did Mitchell do it??

*sigh*

What a fucking waste of time. There are basically ZERO prominent players on this list that we didn't already know. Even Andy and Clemens were suspected in the whole Grimsley thing. It's obvious that all the current players have switched over to HGH and we can't prove it.. so oh.. now lets bury some fuckers that don't matter and everything will be fine?

Stupid. The fact that this is getting so much coverage now after these names have been released, it's really blowing my mind.. who gives a shit about David Segui and Greg Zaun?

[Slimdust]

your right, i thought there would be more big names in it and shocking names.

[Necro]

The Clemans thing is great though. You gotta admit that...

[CrasH - X]

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7559804_37_1.pdf?MSNHPHMA