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Old 11-12-2007, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I Love When Racism Backfires

Notre Dame's record with Tyrone Willingham as head coach: 21-15

Notre Dame's record with Charlie Weis as head coach: 21-16

Tyrone Willingham: Became the first Notre Dame head coach ever fired before his initial contract expired

Charlie Weis: Was given a 10-year extension halfway through his first year (at which point Willingham was still undefeated), and now leads a 1-10 team...the worst in Notre Dame history, and the first to lose to Navy in 43 years

Tyrone Willingham: Recruited Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardjia and Tom Zbikowski

Charlie Weis: Had two great years with Willingham's recruits, then went 1-10 with his recruits

Tyrone Willingham: Recruited players who performed well in their classes and were model citizens who made Notre Dame proud

Charlie Weis: Recruited this guy...
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And guess what ND! You've got 8 more years of Charlie Weis! But at least he's white!!!
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

I don't think that letting him go had anything to do with race. Im sick of race getting pushed into everything.

I think charlie will get them on the right track. They cant just keep letting coaches go.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

It is fucking amazing how poorly Weis and Notre Dame have recruited and coached their players. He's a great play caller, I'll give him that.. but this is out of hand this season. Losing to Navy and Air Force? Any other coach would have been fired on the spot.
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

Actually Slim, it was believed that race was the driving factor in his tumultuous tenure at ND. Willingham was never accepted by the ND faithful. I see no reason why he wouldn't be, he did everything right, I don't know what they wanted out of him.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

idk, maybe race was, but maybe it wasnt. Idk, all I am saying is race gets put into just about everything now days.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

lol..make sure you guys see the edit I made to my original post

Slim...Willingham is the ONLY Notre Dame coach ever fired before his first contract expired. For the record, ND has been playing football since 1887. That's 121 years, although to be fair, the early coaches didnt realy have "contracts" per se, and there were a few "interim" coaches mixed in

Willingham went 8-0 to start his ND career, yet he didnt receive a 10-year extension. But for some reason Charlie Weis did...
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

This is one of the very few times, where I completely agree with Race card against Willingham, they really had no reason to fire him. Tom, there is no k Tom >.> Check Zbikowski
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hmmm alright well in this case it does seem a little fishy to me lol.
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

Now why are you guys ripping Jimmy Clausen? I mean yeah they suck this year but thats Willinghams fault not Charlie Wies' fault. Give them two years and they'll be in a bowl game with Jimmy Clausen as there QB.
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Re: I Love When Racism Backfires

whoa sorry for the double post...
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