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Don Shula likes the Patriots' chances of going undefeated, but the Bill Belichick-inspired spying scandal has ...
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Don Shula likes the Patriots' chances of going undefeated, but the Bill Belichick-inspired spying scandal has clouded Shula's thinking when comparing New England with his unbeaten 1972 Dolphins team.
To his chagrin, Don Shula believes the Patriots and Barry Bonds have something in common.
"The Spygate thing has diminished what they've accomplished," Shula said in an interview with the New York Daily News. "You would hate to have that attached to your accomplishments. They've got it."
Belichick was fined $500,000 and the Patriots were fined $250,000 and lost a first-round draft pick for videotaping the Jets' opposing sideline during the teams' season-opening game.
"That tells you the seriousness or significance of what they found," Shula said, according to the Daily News. "I guess you got the same thing as putting an asterisk by Barry Bonds' home run record.
"I guess it will be noted that the Patriots were fined and a No. 1 draft choice was taken away during that year of accomplishment. The sad thing is Tom Brady looks so good, it doesn't look like he needs any help."
The way the Patriots have been playing, Shula and the '72 Dolphins might find themselves answering more questions than in past years about whether their record will stand. New England improved to 9-0 on Sunday by beating the previously unbeaten Colts (7-1) in Indianapolis.
There have been serious runs made at the Dolphins' record before. The 1985 Bears started 12-0, then lost on a Monday night to a Dolphins team coached by Shula. The 1991 Redskins started 11-0 and the 1998 Broncos and 2005 Colts opened 13-0 before losing. Although members of the '72 Dolphins have become known for sipping champagne after the last unbeaten team falls by the wayside each season, Shula says stories of that annual celebration "have been blown out of proportion."
"You guys put forth the myth that we are pathetic losers down here clicking champagne glasses and clinging desperately to a record set 35 years ago," former Dolphins tight end Jim Mandich told the Daily News. "Somehow we've been portrayed as being evil. We don't ever blow our own horn. It's a great record, but the record doesn't get beaten.
And you call me a hater!!!
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So what you're saying is, because Don Shula believes that breaking the rules is wrong(Ooh more novel concepts), he's going senile? Correct me if I'm wrong, which I might be, but did the Patriots, or did they not get caught breaking the rules? I don't possibly see how this makes Don Shula senile in the least bit. I think it shows skepticism if anything. Anyway, do I think there should be an asterisk? No. I don't. But to call THE Greatest coach in NFL History Senile, when all he's doing is stating his feelings on a matter, is just asinine.
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first off - while Shula was a great coach, he is not in Bill Walsh's league or world. Not even close.
Now back to my comment - EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE was warned about the taping before the season. they all were doing it because it was basically allowed to happen for a long time. They made an example of the Patriots because the Jet's coach has a big mouth and they suck so bad he had to do something to get some publicity. Like the "scandal" has hurt the pats. they are still way better then everyone else. If, and it is a BIG IF the pats go undefeated then there should be no notation or anything that brings into question the accomplishment. Shula made the comment about the **** and it was a dumb comment plain and simple.
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Yeah, basically you just lost all credibility in almost anything you say. Good Job. So I guess that while Eric Mangini saw cheating, he was just supposed to let it slide? What the hell? Seriously the whole ripping on Eric Mangini, has gotten as annoying to us, as the Patriot hate does to you. Again, I see his reasoning why he wants it, I don't think it should happen, but to not see his reason, just shows you're apparently as stupid as his comments apparently were.
And to address the comment, Did Bill Walsh ever go undefeated with his back-up QB at the helm? No? Oh, ok.
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.