MLB Off-Season moves and discussion

Blitzkrieg

lol @ someone thinking I'm a Pats fan.

When exactly did the Yankees start decreasing their payroll? They just gave Posada, Mariano, and A-Rod huge contract extensions and they opted to keep Abreu for $16M this year and now Andy is coming back for another $16M I'm sure..

I love this trade for the Tigers. They gave up a lot of prospects but what they got in return could win them the world series. HOLY SHIT.

Necro

Lol anyone who lives in Boston for this many years is probably a Red Sox fan. I think out of all teams the Red Sox are easily the most followed sports team in new england.

Blitzkrieg

If someone told me there we're Pats bandwagon jumpers I'd believe it. I've seen it with my own eyes.. but not Sox fans. They are the most loyal sports fans in the nation.

Danny Diamond

Founder/Admin

The Tigers got a great deal no matter what they gave up for prospects. Both players are in their mid 20's and already damn good.

Miggy has very comparable numbers to Manny Ramirez's first few seasons. Could be a legend if he stays off the Twinkies.

Dr. Giganto

jesus christ...i knew Ellsbury's BA/OBP/SLg numbers, but I never really looked at his SBs...he has 105 SBs in 250 career minor league games...that's 68 SBs per 162 games...assuming catchers are better in the majors, and pitchers are better at holding guys on, he's still a 50 SB threat...

Blitzkrieg

I don't see how Ellsbury and a package of other mid-top tier prospects aren't worth Johan Santana. I get that Santana is the best pitcher in baseball and in his prime, but pitchers are fragile. I never value them as high as a position player even though their impact in the post-season is unlike any other position..

Furthermore, the Twinkies aren't going to give Santana anywhere near the supposed $150M asking price so they have to move him.. and I don't see where they are going to find anything better right now then what the Sox are offering, assuming the Yanks are out of this race.

Also, I don't see how a scout can tell us what Ellsbury is going to be worth in the majors when we already saw the dude tear up the majors and the playoffs during the later parts of the '07 season. What he did this year HAS to factor in this potential trade. He looked like a stud with nerves of steel to me. I'd also like to add that while Derek Jeter's stats aren't usually unbelievable, he does things that do not show up on the stat sheet that win games, especially in big spots. I got the feeling Ellsbury could possibly be that type of player.

Suntan Superman

WC's Resident Samoan

Just for reference sake.

Ortiz was injured for most of his career in Minnesota, that's why they cut him. I remember I was living around there, they loved Ortiz but he couldn't stay healthy. I think a healthy Ortiz could have hit 40 HR's in Minnesota(Although I'm quite glad he didn't)

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Dr. Giganto

There's no such thing as a "steroid body". Many of the guys who tested positive looked nothing like what you would think a steroid user would look like. Cases in point:

Rafael Palmeiro
Jaun Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Matt Lawton

Suntan Superman

WC's Resident Samoan

Another big name is on the move, and it's not Johan Santana. Andruw Jones and the Dodgers agreed early Thursday morning on a two-year deal worth over $36 million. Jones won 10 gold gloves in 12 seasons with the Braves

The road I walk is paved in gold
To glorify my platinum soul
I am the closest thing to God
So worship me and never stop.
The selfish blood runs through my veins
I gave up everything for fame
I am the life that you adore
I feed the rich and fuck the poor.
This is entertainment
Lives are entertainment
You are down on your knees
Begging me for more.

Blitzkrieg

Jesus. I know it's $18M/year+ but I can safely say this is not what he had hoped. He wanted a contract similar to what Soriano got from the Cubs last year. He'll be great for the Dodgers but it irks me a little that he settled for this. The Braves probably could've gotten him to stay for two years.

Not a great offseason for Boras is it?