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Old 09-18-2007, 04:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

really? looks to me he could of played a lot better.. But im probably just saying that because he is black huh...

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Old 09-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

He completed 61% of his passes, not including a handful of drops by his receivers downfield. He also didn't throw any interceptions (though Landry should have picked one late in the game).
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

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What Donovan McNabb is getting at is that there are various stigmas attached to black quarterbacks, at all levels. For years it was obviously near-unfathomable to start a black quarterback in the NFL, but then in the past decade, that notion pretty much wore away. I think it's kind of rearing it's head again now though, as once-All-Pro quarterbacks like McNabb and Culpepper are regressing as they get older, and high-profile draftees like Michael Vick and Byron Leftwich have vastly underperformed. I'm curious to see if it'll affect Andre Woodson's draft position next April.
That just doesn't make sense to me at all, Vick is a poor argument because he would have played QB in Atlanta for another 10 years if he wasn't an idiot. Leftwich was replaced by Garrad who is black. McNabb still starts and doesn't get much scrutiny, shit look at Peyton Manning, the poor guy had to answer "Can you win the big one?" every sodding year despite the fact he is the best QB the league has seen for years.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how Jason Campbell and Tavaris Jackson have come into the league and started this year, Vince Young is being hailed as the new Vick and new face of the NFL. 1/4 of all teams have a Black QB. Call in Dr King.

QBs get criticism and scrutiny because they are QBs. Romo took some shit last year at the back end of the year, Grossman is constantly getting called a joke despite the fact he was 1 receiver worth a damn and that receiver keeps hanging him out to dry, Eli gets constant scrutiny being Peytons brother and because he played pretty poor last year.

As for the Woodson comment, that is made redundant by the fact the number pick this year was a black QB. Go figure.
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

Your points are all valid, and this is a hard thing to argue from my side. I just can't ignore the historical (and ongoing) tendency among football people to expect white men to be superior quarterbacks over black men.

When I mentioned Leftwich and Vick, I was suggesting that those doubts seem to be re-emerging with regards to up-and-coming black QBs, especially now that once-great players like McNabb, Culpepper and McNair have dropped off significantly. Obviously, Russell and Young don't exactly reinforce my argument; but for what it's worth, one of those guys went to an organization that was led for years by a terrific black quarterback, and the other was drafted by Al Davis (who loves anyone who's huge and athletic).

By my count, there were actually only six black quarterbacks starting on opening day, and even fewer in Week 2.
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

I agree that all QB's are under the gun and rightfully so. I don't believe it's more black then white. Where that comes into play is actually on draft day. There are so many QB's that are forced to change position and 90% of them are black. You can chalk it up to racism if you'd like but I'd like to point out how a lot of colleges put an athlete at QB because their intention is to run 70% of the time anyway.
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Re: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure

PHILADELPHIA -- Donovan McNabb smiled when a reporter asked for his opinion on the upcoming opponent and pumped his fist when the next question was about his poor start.
Once the topic switched to McNabb's comment about black quarterbacks, his mood changed quickly.
In a bizarre interview that ended with McNabb walking off the podium at the Philadelphia Eagles practice facility Wednesday, the five-time Pro Bowl quarterback reiterated his statement on HBO that black QBs face greater scrutiny than their white counterparts.
"It's just reality," McNabb said. "It's something that I've been a part of and other quarterbacks before and after me have been a part of. Did I expect any backlash? Yeah. Everything I say, I expect backlash from it."
McNabb displayed a variety of emotions while getting peppered with questions on the race issue. He was perplexed and defensive -- and looked more uncomfortable than he does standing in the pocket on his surgically repaired knee under a heavy rush.
"People are trying to dig too deep in this whole situation," he said. "I wasn't pinpointing particular people. What I said was the fact that we [black QBs] have to do a little extra. No matter the style of play you're displaying, there's always going to be criticism."
Asked if any quarterback was criticized more than Chicago's Rex Grossman last year, McNabb said: "I wouldn't know."
He then mentioned Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Hall of Famer Steve Young and Jake Plummer.
"I never said Peyton doesn't get criticized. I never said Carson doesn't get criticized. I never said Tom doesn't get criticized, because they do," McNabb said. "They talked about Peyton not winning the big game. They talked about Tom Brady and his baby and girlfriend. We get criticized a little differently."
Pressed for specific examples, McNabb pointed to being a running quarterback.
"Nobody ever talked to Steve Young about the running quarterback situation and Jake Plummer," he said.
McNabb has always been sensitive about being labeled a running quarterback. He considers himself someone who passes first and runs only out of necessity.
"You wouldn't ask somebody else the questions we get asked," McNabb said, declining to reveal those questions.
The 30-year-old McNabb is in his ninth season with the Eagles after being selected with the No. 2 pick in the 1999 draft. He's one of six black starting quarterbacks in the NFL. The others are David Garrard of Jacksonville, Vince Young of Tennessee, Steve Steve McNair of Baltimore, Jason Campbell of Washington and Tarvaris Jackson of Minnesota.
"Black or white quarterbacks, we all go through something because that's the life of a quarterback," Vince Young said Wednesday after Titans practice. "You've got to be able to handle all the pressure. You've got to be able to handle the losses. You've got to be able to handle the media. If you can't handle it, you've got to get off that position and go play something else."
Young is the third black quarterback to start for the Titans franchise. The team won a bidding war to sign Warren Moon to a contract in 1984, drafted McNair with the third pick overall in 1995 and selected Young in the same place in 2006.
Young said he respects every quarterback in the NFL and that everyone is entitled to his opinion.
"That's not my fight to fight. Right now over here the Tennessee Titans, we're trying to go to the playoffs. I can't worry about all the other stuff going on," Young said.
Less than 10 months since having surgery for a torn knee ligament, McNabb wasn't sharp in Philadelphia's first two games. He's completed just 54.4 percent of his passes for 424 yards, one touchdown and one interception. His passer rating of 68.8 is 24th in the league. And he's not scrambling like he used to because of the injury.
McNabb misfired badly on some throws against the Redskins, though he played better in the fourth quarter. Fans booed him during the game and some are even calling for rookie Kevin Kolb to be the starter.
The interview on HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" took place in August, but was broadcast Tuesday night.
"If a question is asked, I'm going to answer it," McNabb said. "I didn't bring it up. The interview wasn't about black-white issues, it was about my life. I didn't do the interview 30 minutes after the game. The tease everybody has seen, they blew it way out of proportion."
Eagles coach Andy Reid said McNabb's comments aren't a distraction for an 0-2 team that entered the season with high expectations.
"I don't think anybody's worried about that," Reid said. "They're worried about playing the game. That's where our focus is."
Several teammates declined to discuss the matter, though All-Pro safety Brian Dawkins supported McNabb's comment.
"On a whole, that's a fair assessment," Dawkins said.



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