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Old 08-09-2007, 10:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Of these players who would make it in the HOF if there career came to a conclusion today.

I think alot of these are sure fire HOF'ers, but I think people were a little generous in the football thread.

Clearly some will belong in and some will be obvious misses. Your call to decide which ones.

Barry Bonds

Ken Griffey Jr.

Alex Rodriguez

Roger Clemens

Pedro Martinez

Manny Ramirez

Tom Glavine

Jason Giambi

Craig Biggio

Frank Thomas

Sammy Sosa

Jorge Posada

Mike Piazza

Ivan Rodriguez

Miguel Tejada

Gary Sheffield

Chipper Jones

Vladdy Guerrero

Albert Pujols


Damn, there are alot of good players in baseball right now and I didnt even really do the pitchers. Discuss.

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Old 08-09-2007, 11:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Ok, this is the era of steroids, and we dont know exaclt who did what so i am not judging them on that..

Barry Bonds - Home Run King? uhh duh

Ken Griffey Jr.
-Could of been the greatest ever, still one of the greatest, and a great man. He is in.

Alex Rodriguez- The future home run king, already in 500 club, if he retired today, he is in.

Roger Clemens- Dont they already saw future hall of famer? lol.. ya he is in..

Pedro Martinez- I am going to say no.. Dude was playing in triple A the other day and got two home runs on him.. What has he done lately?

Manny Ramirez- I would say yes, but I had to think about this one a little more.

Tom Glavine- 300 wins? That aint easy to do. Yes

Jason Giambi- I am going to say no.

Craig Biggio- Best 2nd baseman ever. Awesome hitter.. Good all around player. Great man. He is in no doubt in my mind.

Frank Thomas- Close, but he gets in.

Sammy Sosa- 600 home runs gets you in.

Jorge Posada- No. When his careers is all over with maybe, but if it was over today, no.

Mike Piazza- Yes.

Ivan Rodriguez- Greatest catcher of all time IMO. World Series ring, multiple time batting champion and multiple time golden glove winner. He is in.

Miguel Tejada No

Gary Sheffield
- I am on the fence

Chipper Jones- I would say yes.

Vladdy Guerrero - Not yet

Albert Pujols- Not Yet

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Old 08-09-2007, 11:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Greg Maddux is in. The thing with the HOF is, it's not whether they deserve it, it's whether they can get a 75% vote so....

Bonds... maybe
Rodriguez... no doubt
Griffey... sadly no
Clemens... duh
Martinez... no
Glavine... yes
Giambi... no
Biggio... no
Thomas... no
Sosa... no
Posada... no
Piazza... no
Rodriguez... yes
Tejada... no
Sheffield... no
Jones... no
Guerrero... maybe
Pujols... maybe

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Old 08-10-2007, 12:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

When I say "yes", that means they'd get in if they retire today. Otherwise, I give an explanation

Barry Bonds - Yes


Ken Griffey Jr. - Yes

Alex Rodriguez - Yes

Roger Clemens - Yes

Pedro Martinez - Yes

Manny Ramirez - Not just yet, but almost there. He'll finish with the numbers necessary to get it

Tom Glavine - Yes

Jason Giambi - Not a chance

Craig Biggio - Borderline...I think he'll get in

Frank Thomas - Borderline, i think he'll get in

Sammy Sosa - Yes

Jorge Posada - Borderline, i think he'll fall short, unless he continues to play at this level for a few more years

Mike Piazza - Yes

Ivan Rodriguez - Yes

Miguel Tejada - No

Gary Sheffield - Maybe...needs a few more good years

Chipper Jones - Maybe...I think he'll fall just short

Vladdy Guerrero - Not yet...needs a few more years

Albert Pujols - If he keeps up this pace, no doubt about it

I'll add a few:

Mariano Rivera - Yes

Trevor Hoffman - Yes

Billy Wagner - Just short

Randy Johnson - Yes

Greg Maddux - Yes

David Ortiz - Not yet...depends on what he does the next few years

Johan Santana - Like Pujols, he's well on his way

John Smoltz - Yes

Andruw Jones - Maybe, but I'm leaning towards no

Ichiro - Depends on what he does, but he'll probably get in

Jeff Kent - Close, but I think he'll be hurt by his bad reputation.

Mike Mussina - No

Jim Thome - Yes

Omar Vizquel - Close, but I think he'll slip through the cracks and not get in

Kenny Rogers - No

Jason Varitek - No

Kenny Lofton - I think he'll get some consideration, but won't quite get there

Derek Jeter - Almost there, will definitely get in

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Old 08-10-2007, 12:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

You obviously have a lot of faith in that council of players and stuff... I don't

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Old 08-10-2007, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Griffey not in the hall? Surely you jest Mr. Suntan

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Old 08-10-2007, 02:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Shinoda, you cheapskate, how is KEN GRIFFEY JUNIOR not a first-ballot lock?
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Look, it's not that I don't think he can get in. You misread, I believe the voters might not vote him in. Does he deserve it in my mind? Yes, But injuries really marred his career. I love Griffey to death, it's the committee I don't have any faith in

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Old 08-10-2007, 05:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: MLB - HOF if they retired today

Nah, there's no way. Stingy is one thing; batshit retarded is another.

Even with all the injury problems, Junior has every credential imaginable (okay, save for a ring) to be a first-ballot hall-of-famer: the batting stats, the Gold Gloves, the MVP award. Hell, God-given talent aside, he's also one of the most charismatic, COOLEST athletes of our era: the flip-up sunglasses, the batting stance, the video games, The Simpsons episode. (I won't lie: I wrote him a letter when I was nine.)

He made the MLB All-Century Team for cryin' out loud!

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I totally 100% agree with Freak...despite the injuries, the voters would be absolutely retarded not to vote him in

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