[Danny Diamond]

Originally Posted by Freak

Ask Terry Glenn about being a "team player." Ask Willie McGinest or Ty Law or Lawyer Milloy or Corey Dillon how they feel about Belichick now. Ask Deion Branch how he was treated after winning the team a Super Bowl. Ask Ted Johnson how many fingers you're holding up. Ask Tom Brady if he's ever heard of a condom.

The Pats are like any other team in football, get over it.

Could you be anymore of an anti-Patriots fan? (for those who dont know Freak well, this documents back at least 3 years.)

The players you mentioned above..............all past their prime, and all wanted top dollars sans Branch who wanted his current contract ripped up and started over. That's just poor business to give into a players demands. Not to mention they paid Adalius Thomas what Branch wanted. Who would you rather have?

Ask Rosey Colvin, Adalius Thomas, Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, Wes Walker and Ansante Samuel if they like New England. If you can play, you get paid. Plain and simple.

Sorry if they don't hang onto players that will eventually hurt them financially and on the field for nostaligia purposes.

I will give you an example.......

Bret Favre = Green Bay is handcuffed by their QB's decision on a yearly basis.

The Pats win championships, plain and simple.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.


**Waits for Freak to logon as he just threw his PC out the window cursing out DD for his complete Homerism"

Also I would like to add that only Tom Brady can nail a hot actress, drop the baby in her lap and then fly off to Paris with Gisele Bunchden with his finger in her ass.

[Dakstang]

This comes from msnbc.com


Running back Dominic Rhodes is going from the Super Bowl champions to the team that posted the worst record in the NFL last season, after agreeing Friday to a two-year contract with the Oakland Raiders that could be worth up to $7.5 million.

"I just want to come in and help this team win," Rhodes said. "It's an honor to be here and an awesome experience to play for the Raiders. The whole history of the Raiders, I love it."

Rhodes will likely split time in Oakland with LaMont Jordan, who is staying with the team after agreeing earlier in the week to reduce his roster bonus from $4.75 million to $3 million. Jordan rushed for only 434 yards and two touchdowns before going down with a season-ending knee injury Nov. 19.

The Raiders had one of the worst offenses on NFL history last year on the way to a 2-14 record. They scored just 168 points - fifth fewest ever in a 16-game season - and had only 12 offensive touchdowns. Oakland had the worst ranked offense and ranked 29th out of 32 teams in yards rushing.

New coach Lane Kiffin was brought in to upgrade the offense. The team already cut ties with last year's starting quarterback, Aaron Brooks, and is expected to use the No. 1 draft pick on either quarterback JaMarcus Russell of LSU or Brady Quinn of Notre Dame.

"Dominic will be a dynamic presence that can diversify our offense both as a runner and pass catcher," Kiffin said. "He is focused and determined to come here and compete immediately with our other running backs."

Earlier in the week, the Raiders signed offensive lineman Jeremy Newberry to a $1.5 million, one-year deal.

Rhodes, who has played his entire six-year career with Indianapolis, will be counted on to improve a running game that averaged 3.9 yards per carry in 2006.

He started all 16 regular-season games last season, rushing for 641 yards and five touchdowns. After backing up Edgerrin James since entering the league, Rhodes shared the job last season with rookie Joseph Addai. He has 2,274 yards rushing in his career.

Rhodes had one of his best performances in the Colts' Super Bowl win over the Chicago Bears, rushing for 113 yards in Indianapolis' 29-17 victory.

Just a few weeks later, Rhodes was arrested for drunken driving after being pulled over for driving 81 mph in a 55-mph zone near Indianapolis. If convicted of the class A misdemeanor, penalties range from no jail time to one year behind bars. A conviction on a first-time offense typically results in probation, a fine and substance abuse treatment, according to prosecutors.

[Freak]

Dude, I never said the Pats organization is any worse to their players than the rest of the NFL -- I said they're all exactly the same. It's a business, I'm not arguing that at all. Cutting those players was good business and good for the team, of course.

My point is that Patriots fans paint this bizarre image of their organization as some kind of bible camp, where bad people become good citizens, and it's all about the team, and everyone stays in line. Which just isn't true. Yet you say New England would be the ideal place for Randy Moss to "showcase his good personality traits" -- what the hell does that even mean? I see why he'd want to go to a winning team, sure, but not how a Patriots uniform would turn him into Barry Sanders or Reggie White.

I don't actually hate the Patriots -- hell, I cheered for them in the first two rounds of this year's playoffs -- but as soon as I browse the internet and listen to the way Pats/Red Sox fans talk about their teams, I can't stand it. I don't mean that personally either; you're fun to chat with, even if you are a complete homer.

PS. "If you can play, you get paid"? "Wes Welker"? Congratulations, you just came up with the worst example in the history of the internet.

[Joseph T. Cool]

This debate is the most entertaining thing in this thread. haha

Rhodes going to the Raiders? Can't say i'm surprised.

It will take a few years before he can produce the numbers he did in Indy if at all though.

[Danny Diamond]

You caught me on the Wes Welker comment.

Sonofa.....

I frankly have never even heard of the guy before we signed him.

I want to know why Joe is w00ting all Freak's comment slashing apart my beloved Pats. haha. Maybe because he has to be a Seahawks fan now. Ouch...

Wait, what am I even talking about right now.....

Who else thought that Rhodes could have gotten more money and a better team?

[Joseph T. Cool]

Originally Posted by Danny Diamond

You caught me on the Wes Welker comment.

Sonofa.....

I frankly have never even heard of the guy before we signed him.

I want to know why Joe is w00ting all Freak's comment slashing apart my beloved Pats. haha. Maybe because he has to be a Seahawks fan now. Ouch...

Wait, what am I even talking about right now.....

Who else thought that Rhodes could have gotten more money and a better team?

I am wooting him sir because he makes some good points that you are a homer for the Pats.

But he is for Packers, I am for the Seahawks now....Slim wants to kiss Tony Romo...etc.

Just all in fun.

Plus he's making this whole conversation interesting. haha

[Dr. Giganto]

Originally Posted by Dakstang

He would also have a good role model there in Troy Brown. Troy Brown played for Marshall University so they would have that in common. Troy Brown is a class act all the way and Moss would do good to make him his role model.

this is funny on sooooo many levels...

[Mr. WikipediaSpamBot]

I am a Bills fan; so I am pissed they traded Willis McGahee away, especially for two 3rd round picks and one 7th round pick.

[Dakstang]

Originally Posted by Tom Dogg

this is funny on sooooo many levels...

Troy Brown is not a good role model?

I have never heard of him being arrested or having a bad attitude but I don't really follow his everyday activities either.

I know he does a lot of charity events for organizations in W.V. and seems to be a really nice guy.

[Danny Diamond]

Originally Posted by Dakstang

Troy Brown is not a good role model?

I have never heard of him being arrested or having a bad attitude but I don't really follow his everyday activities either.

I know he does a lot of charity events for organizations in W.V. and seems to be a really nice guy.

I think he was laughing at rehabilitating Moss.

And Joe. I know you were just playing around.