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Old 12-03-2006, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Florida to play Ohio State for BCS National Championship

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Florida beat Michigan on Sunday in the only game that mattered.

The Gators, who lobbied hard for this victory, were picked to play No. 1 Ohio State for college football's national championship, ending any chance for the Wolverines to get the rematch they so desired and thought they deserved.

But Florida got in by a whisker -- just a hundredth of a point in the Bowl Championship Series Standings.

The Gators had a BCS average of .944, and the Wolverines were just behind at .934. The teams were tied in the computer ratings, but Florida had a 38-point lead in the Harris poll and a 26-point advantage in the coaches' poll.

All these factors were sure to set off renewed calls to scrap the BCS and go to a playoff. Count Florida coach Urban Meyer as supporter of that plan.

"We're beyond the fact of do we need a playoff," he said. "It's now, can we get one."

Of course, Southern California could have made things simpler by beating UCLA on Saturday. Instead, the second-ranked Trojans were upset 13-9, dropping in the standings and clearing the way for Florida (12-1) or Michigan (11-1).

The Gators leapfrogged idle Michigan by winning the Southeastern Conference championship game, 38-28, over Arkansas.

"It's well deserved, and I'm proud of it," Meyer said of the Gators' selection.

The BCS Championship Game is Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.

Michigan's consolation prize is a Rose Bowl bid to play USC (10-2), a classic Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup of teams left to wonder what could have been.

"I don't think they [Florida] would have moved ahead of us if USC would have won the game," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.

In other bowls:

• Big 12 champion Oklahoma will meet unbeaten Boise State in the Tostitos Fiesta on Jan. 1.

• Big East champion Louisville will play ACC champion Wake Forest in the FedEx Orange on Jan. 2.

• LSU will take Florida's spot in the Allstate Sugar and play Notre Dame on Jan. 3.

When the Wolverines ended their regular season with a 42-39 loss to the Buckeyes two weeks ago, they talked about getting another swing at their Big Ten rivals.

While Michigan was left to wait and hope, the other contenders still had games to play.

As Florida padded its resume, second-year coach Meyer became very vocal about getting a chance to play Ohio State, especially when it appeared the Gators would be left out.

He called for a playoff and suggested the BCS should be imploded if the SEC champ again was left out of the championship game -- the way undefeated Auburn was in 2004.

In the end, he said he didn't think voicing his opinions about the BCS helped push his team into the title game.

"It's an imperfect system," Meyer said Sunday. "If you want a true national championship, the only way to do it is on the field.

Carr agreed: "I hope one day we have a system where all the issues are decided on the field."

But Ohio State coach Jim Tressel, however, isn't so sure about a playoff system.

"With a 12-game season, it would be next to impossible to have a 16-team playoff," he said Sunday. "We'll continually improve the system. As you look at it over the past few years, it has gotten better and better."

It's always something with the BCS. The system was created to make sure No. 1 and No. 2 played in the final game of the season, but rarely has there been a title game everybody agreed upon. If it's not too many unbeaten teams, which was the case in '04 when USC beat Oklahoma for the title, it's not enough, which has usually been the case. Last year, when USC and Texas were the only undefeateds, was an abberation.

"What we've got is an extremely exciting regular season that the BCS actually enhanced by making so many games important not only in the region that they were played but nationally," said Mike Slive, BCS coordinator and SEC commissioner. "The next part is here we are with many deserving teams.

"We need to continue over the next few years to look at the postseason to make sure it works the way we want it to work."

Slive repeatedly has said he's willing to discuss changes, including the so-called plus-one model, which would have the championship matchup set after the big four bowl games are played.

This year, the BCS worked out for the Gators, who can focus on winning their second national championship. The first came in 1996, when Steve Spurrier's Gators beat Florida State in the Sugar Bowl -- a rematch, coincidentally, of a November regular-season game won by the Seminoles.

Michigan had hoped for a similar scenario, but Carr chose not to publicly pitch for his team.

It's unclear whether that would have helped or whether Meyer swayed some poll voters. Maybe when faced with the possibility of a Michigan-Ohio State rematch, the voters, like Meyer, cringed.

At least one coach, who voted for Michigan, said the possibility of a rematch didn't influence his vote.

"I don't think coaches are, quite frankly, the best people to vote on that poll," said Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, who had Michigan No. 2 and Florida No. 3. "But I take it very seriously. I know it's important, because we're dealing with people's lives."

Tressel decided not to get involved at all. He has a vote in the coaches poll but abstained.

"We felt it was somewhat of a conflict of interest," Tressel said.

Tressel said he didn't feel right putting Ohio State in the middle of the decision of who the Buckeyes are supposed to play for the national title.

Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, a member of the coaches' poll, said there was no scenario in which he would choose not to vote. On Tressel's abstention, Carr said: "I thought it was real slick."

Meyer could empathize with Tressel.

"I made a decision a year ago when I was asked to vote, not to vote for this very reason," he said.

Instead of the 104th meeting between the Wolverines and the Buckeyes, Florida and Ohio State will play for the first time ever.

The Buckeyes have won four national titles, including the 2002 title under Tressel. Ohio State upset Miami 31-24 in an overtime classic at the Fiesta Bowl.

Last year, Ohio State beat Notre Dame 34-20 in the Fiesta Bowl, giving the country a taste of what was to come this season.

The Buckeyes have been No. 1 since the preseason. Led by Heisman Trophy front-runner Troy Smith, they've run roughshod over their competition. Only Michigan and Illinois stayed within 17 points of Ohio State.

Senior quarterback Smith capped his season with four touchdown passes against the Wolverines. He finished with 30 TD passes and five interceptions.

Florida, meanwhile, seemed to struggle almost every week. The Gators won at Tennessee by one in September, and none of their last five victories over I-A teams have been by more than 10 points.

The Gators relied on their defense, a unit ranked 10th nationally in yards allowed and sixth in scoring.

Florida's senior quarterback, Chris Leak, entered the season as a Heisman contender but ended up sharing the job with freshman sensation Tim Tebow.

Tebow's tough running has complemented Leak's passing, but unlike the explosive Buckeyes, Florida's offense has had its ups and downs. The Gators' only loss came Oct. 18 at Auburn, a 27-17 setback that was a four-point game until the Tigers scored on the final play.

"They have a great football team," Tressel said. "When you can win the SEC championship, you're a great football team."

The Gators are back in the BCS for the first time since Spurrier left after the 2002 Orange Bowl, but Boise State (12-0), Louisville (11-1) and Wake Forest (11-2) will make their BCS debuts. Oklahoma (10-2) is a BCS veteran, making its fifth appearance since the 2000 season.

Boise State from the Western Athletic Conference is the second team from outside the original six BCS conferences to play in the big-money bowl games. Meyer's Utah team was the first in 2004.

Notre Dame (10-2) is making its second straight BCS appearance under coach Charlie Weis. The Fighting Irish will be trying to snap an eight-game bowl losing streak against LSU (10-2).

The Tigers were set to make their first Rose Bowl presented by Citi appearance, but USC's loss has them playing in their home state. The Sugar Bowl returns to New Orleans this season after being temporarily relocated to Atlanta last season because of Hurricane Katrina.
Being an Ohio State fan I love not seeing Michigan again this season, BUT I do believe Michigan deserved the rematch and is the true number two team in the nation. Florida is good and may be in a stronger conference, but if Michigan and Florida played to see who would go on for the match against OSU, I'm pretty sure Michigan would win....

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ya, well now that mich or usc is not gonna play ohio state, i wnat florida to win! cuz i dont like troy smith lol. But it should be a good game, i see it being 38-42 florida!

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Old 12-04-2006, 06:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Without whining too much...I was hoping for a rematch. OSU and U of M are the 2 best teams in the nation period. Logically speaking, there is no possible way to say they aren't since the system is strictly subjective. In other words, whos to say that Michigan's 3 point loss to OSU was worse than Florida's 10 point loss to lower ranked Aubrun? So having a OSU vs Florida game is not the 2 best teams in the nation. But Florida did win their conference and they didn't lose to OSU in the regular season. Oh well. I was a UCLA fan this weekend so I guess come Jan 8th I'll be a Florida fan.

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Old 12-04-2006, 06:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I hate Florida, but since Michigan blew their chance, I feel Florida deserved it. The SEC is a much tougher conference than the Big 10. Plus, Michigan already lost to OSU; they shouldn't be playing them again. Though I think this whole situation supports a playoff system instead of the BCS system.
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It's not so much about who deserves it as it is about putting the 2 best teams in the nation in the title game. That's why the BCS exists, is it not? 2 weeks ago Michigan was 80 some odd points ahead of Florida in the Harris poll and another 30+ points ahead in the USA Today poll. Then USC jumped Michigan - how I don't know since they beat Notre Dame by 20 points in LA when U of M beat them by 26 points in South Bend. Then when USC lost Florida suddenly jumps up. So wait a minute...the voters very clearly think Michigan is the better team, but then change their minds? Even though Michigan hasn't played a single down since Nov 18th? Michigan is a better team. Florida is going to the title game on politics and sympathy votes. It wouldn't matter if Michigan played through the MAC. We're in agreement that OSU is the #1 team in the nation. Michigan lost to the #1 team in the land by a mere 3 points (and shouldn't have lost at that) while Florida lost by 10 points to the now #9 team. And as far as that being on the last play of the game...I don't remember the entire game play for play, but I do remember that Auburn took the lead in the 3rd quarter and shut Florida out in the 4th. So it didn't come down to the last play unless I'm confusing that game with another.

As far as no one wanting a rematch...how did Ali vs Frazier II and III go? Or how about the Georgetown-Villanova Final Four? Or any other sporting rematch. In the words of Gene Wojciechowski (ESPN analyst) "if you threatened to take away his precious sweater-vest if he didn't tell the truth, I bet you Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel would rather play Florida than have to face the Wolverines again (Tressel declined to vote in the final coaches' poll)." Why? Because Michigan is the better team. I do think that Michigan had their chance and blew it. But put those teams together, on neutral ground and see what happens. The championship should be about the best teams. Not who's played who and who thinks who should have a shot.

Conference championship means little when some conferences have title games and others don't. And besides...if conference championships mattered all that much one could make a strong case for Boise State since they won their conference outright and are the only team besides OSU to finish undefeated. And feel free to show me the rule in the BCS that says a team must be conference champs to play for the title.

If you want to compare Michigan and Florida, ask a team that both of them played. Vanderbilt. Now I realize that Vanderbilt ain't exactly a powerhouse of a team, but you can bet they'll tell you who the better team is and it ain't gonna be Florida. Michigan beat them by 20 points. Florida by 6. As far as that goes, they shut Florida out in the 4th quarter as well.

Until there is a playoff like there is for every other NCAA sport, this kind of thing will happen virtually every year. It's a system based on politics, speculation, popularity and human error. What would have happened if Arkansas won the SEC? Would LSU then have leapfrogged up to the title game even though they're a 2 loss team and not conference champions? Or would Arkansas have gone? Or what about Louisville? What if Rutgers hadn't lost to WVU and went 11-1? The posibilities are endless and without a playoff there is no definitive way to crown a champion.

Like I said, I was hoping for a rematch. But that's based on the fact that OSU and U of M are clearly the best 2 teams in the country. If by some miracle Florida pulls a win out in the title game I'll eat my words. But I'm not exactly planning on having to. As much as I'd like to see them beat OSU, I don't think Florida stands a chance.
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Nice post man good job, I have a recent article on this topic if you guys would like to check it out, I stand still that I believe Michigan is the better team, and my article gives a few reasons why, so I'm not going to spoil too much..


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ya, michigan gt jobbed by the committee AND the Big Ten, not playing after thanksgiving....stupid, they do it all for money. I'm a HUGE Big Ten fan, but hey are too money-hungry

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I can't believe people are actually using Vandy as an example that UM is better than UF.

No.1, Vandy ALWAYS gets up for our game...always!

No.2, UM caught Vandy in the first game of the season with a brand new QB that hadn't seen any significant playing time.

No.3, UM had them at home where 90,000 fans were screaming and cheering for UM... and yeah it was 90,000 UM fans because I doubt Vandy had more than a couple of thousand there on their side.

I watched the game and I thought Vandy played UM pretty tough the entire game. But turnovers and rookie qb mistakes pretty well kept them out of the game. And don't use a 1AA opponent that was scheduled at the last minute as another example... UM played Ball State, enough said.

Yeah, I'm probably a little biased but then again who isn't? Everyone knows that in any normal year that a #2 loses to a #1 they drop out of the top 3-5 every time... except for this year for some reason. I think when it came down to the final vote, the voters went and looked at the resumes of both teams and decided who to vote for that way. I personally think they came up with the correct decision.

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Yea I bet you did, Florida is a good team don't get me wrong, but they don't have the talent like Michigan, Florida is in a great conference, but when a team like Michigan did so well against the number one team, they pretty much deserve another chance as they could beat them again. Florida is a good team as I said before, but if Florida and Michigan played, Michigan would easily win it IMO...

And this is coming from a Buckeyes fan...the ones that despise Michigan...so in that half I'm glad Florida won, maybe a easier breathing game...


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Yea I bet you did, Florida is a good team don't get me wrong, but they don't have the talent like Michigan, Florida is in a great conference, but when a team like Michigan did so well against the number one team, they pretty much deserve another chance as they could beat them again. Florida is a good team as I said before, but if Florida and Michigan played, Michigan would easily win it IMO...

And this is coming from a Buckeyes fan...the ones that despise Michigan...so in that half I'm glad Florida won, maybe a easier breathing game...
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