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Old 11-15-2006, 08:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you think Baseball needs a salary cap?

Simple question yes or no and why

Right now I'm undecided like look at detroit a small market club and they make world series? Florida was like that a few years ago, I think they could do with a soft cap you can only spend 50 million in total but if you go over by lets say 15 mil no biggie something like that
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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On average, every four years one team wins the world series...the New York Yankees. Is it the bronx, or the water in new york, or the famous pinstripes?

No, the team has more money and outspends the next richest team, the mets, by 20 million dollars (espn)

A salaray cap will never exist in baseball. The players union would never allow it, and they are very, very strong.

Frankly a salaray cap doesn't solve problems necessarily anyway. I think the way it works in the NFL for instance is horrible. Teams change so much year to year because of the salaray cap. a player staying with a team his whole career, or even a good portion of it, is a rarity nowadays. Its also extraodinarily complicated for fans to understand. i don't like it. The NBA version is better, but its not perfect either. salary caps just aren't the great equalizer people think they are and they are often bad for fans because they lose out on watching players being with the same team for a long time.

I think baseball has a lot of good things. Draft picks for losing free agents I think is a brilliant way to keep smaller markets team stocked with talent for instance. the luxury tax is a pretty decent compromise on a salaray cap of sorts, though the threshhold shuold have been set lower than it was.

And remember, its still going to come down to management. Nobody bitched about the yankees in the years form 1982 through 1994 in whcih they didn't win anything. what the yankees are good at is putting a good team together and then winning with that team over and over again. Loo at their history. they tend to win all thsoe championships in bunches. So while it may average out to once every 4 years, the reality of the situation is that many years the yankees don't even have a chance. its only recent history that makes people think they yankees are invincible because of their money. COnsidering that the majority of their teams that one those world series in the 90's were home grown players or players gotten in trades, I don't relaly have a problem with them reqarding players who do well for them. They have recently started getting mroe and mroe free agents, and they haven't won a world series since doing so.

So you see, the problem is often bad management by other teams rather than the yankees being a problem. Other teams overpay players who just aren't very good, and then get stuck witht eh contracts. They focus on the wrong things, they don't teach fundmanetals, develop youngsters or have an organizational philosphy. The poster childs for how sucessful these things can be is the oakland A's (yes, I'm from the bay area and a huge A's fan).

The problem with baseball is not the yankees who pay good players. The problem is teams that pay mediocre to bad players too much and rely on the free agent market. Thats what shuts small market teams out from being able to sign some decent contributors.

I think the yankees are in for a fall anyway. Anyone who thinks roger clemens is all that great anymore is delusional. He's good, but not a fantastic pitcher anymore. He never should have won that last cy young. He wasn't even the best pitcher on his team that year. Andy pettite hasn't been consistent, derek Jeter is way overrated (Read some of espn.com's analysis of his play, its very interesting. basiclaly, he's good, but Tejada, A-Rod and Nomar are in a totally different class offensively and defensively), Giambi is a defensive liability, their outfield never seems that sound apart from bernie williams, they lost mendoza, rivera may be starting to break down a bit. They'll be good this year and maybe for a few more years, but they may be in for some hard times in the future.

Its going to take good management for them to be good in the future, not money.
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YES! A salary cap is much needed, teams like Cleveland, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Florida and Detroit, have their good years, but they are small market teams and can only compete with certain teams, face it, Cleveland is not going to be able to sign anyone to a 10 year 252 million dollar contract and pay it, it's unreal....The Yankees go over the limit every year, but because they are a bigger market can and just pay $20 million for the fee or whatever, and it's not really fair, because other teams can't...Make it an amount where teams can have good players, but make it where everyone can be in the hunt for a player...
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Old 12-24-2006, 02:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Baseball Needs a salary CAP because the game is FUcked up with 10 mill superstars on the Yanks and KC with all shitty Minor leaguers
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I disagree, baseball does not need a salary cap. Adding a salary cap would take out all the fun of beating the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. I feel if owners want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars, they should have that right to do so. Yeah teams like the Royals and Pirates may be at a disadvantage, but teams like the Twins and Tigers have proven you can win without spending all that money. The reason small market teams are successful is because they build from within from their farm system. So if you don't have much money to spend, spend is wisely be investing in it in good minor league scouts. I kinda look at like this, play the hand your delt. If you have the money to spend, then do so, but if not just go with what you got.
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Meh. Even with all the money the Yanks have, they still couldn't beat the Tigers.
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