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Old 07-21-2006, 10:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Even Thuram blamed Zizou. He was wrong and thats that. You can not use violence because someone said something. Did he use race? NO.....Did he use religion? NO...Zidane even admitted that he offended his mother and sister. So, you get over it. Live with the fact that Italy is the best team in the world.

If you call me a son of a bitch and I shoot you, do you go to jail with me? NO....its the same fkn thing.

Materazzi was punished only cause Fifa needed an excuse not to make their idol Zidane look like a moron.

When Totti spit on that guy a few years back, he no doubt was provoked.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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oh, and you talk about rules about religion and race, and yet you keep taking shots at Italy cause you are bitter that they won. If Italy lost, I would have handled it like a man, not like a little crying girl.

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So quite clearly you openly support the view that all Muslims are terrorists, (the insult Materazzi indirectly used towards zidane by calling him the son of a terrorist's whore). Thats fine. I'll take nothing away from the Italian national sides superb World Cup triumph, they were tactically sound and in a negative World Cup they brought the right game to take home the gold. However this fact does not absolve the total cowardice and bigotary of a man who is simply everything that is wrong with the game of football. Materazzi is a peice of scum and a season of 38 games in England (the most tolerant and physical leagues in the world) that resulted in 3 ejections and 13 warnings proves what kind of player this guy is, why don't you be a man and admit your error in judgement instead of jumping on some "old-time" immigrant mentality of supporting the "homeland" blindly. Your guy committed a crime that not only tarnishes Zizous legand but also tarnishes what could have been true glory for the italian national side.
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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What do you want me to admit? Materazzi did not use violence. That is the bottom line. Words are just words. Zidane is the one that used violence. That is why there are wars everywhere. Maybe Materazzi is right and Zidane is a fkn terrorist. He sure acted like one by attacking Materazzi phisically.

Plus Materazzi never called Zizou the son of a terrorist mother. Your info is wrong there K Jay.

Also my loyalty to Italy is not making me blind. I never stood up for Totti when he spat on that guy during a game. Also I never stood up for De Rossi when he elbowed the American player.

Violence is never justified.

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You know what Ive just realised I've been wrong all along and you are perfectly correct, you're eloquent well chosen word have shown me the error of my ways and forever more because of your shining beacon of righteousness I will forever become a better person. Thank You.




















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Old 07-22-2006, 11:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Violence is never justified.
Bullshit!! You telling me the world should have laid down for Hitler? Are you telling me that 9/11 should have been tolerated? How about the cold war? Russia never made any overt confrontation only expanded the rhetoric of communism... was it incorrect of the western world to confront this expansion in Korea and Vietnam? How about afganhistan or Iraq? Mind you they are all American/British ventures how about we look Italian just in case that was where you were heading. Mussolini, now there was a bloke who knew that avoiding violence was the way to go!!
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Bullshit!! You telling me the world should have laid down for Hitler? Are you telling me that 9/11 should have been tolerated? How about the cold war? Russia never made any overt confrontation only expanded the rhetoric of communism... was it incorrect of the western world to confront this expansion in Korea and Vietnam? How about afganhistan or Iraq? Mind you they are all American/British ventures how about we look Italian just in case that was where you were heading. Mussolini, now there was a bloke who knew that avoiding violence was the way to go!!
Are you for real...AGAIN????????????????

Thats completely different. Violence to stop violence is something else. But using violence because someone called you a name??????????? Comon K Man, you are smarter than that.

So if someone calls me a son of a bitch, is it ok for me to go smash him with a baseball bat?

Using violence to stop Hitler from killing millions is a little bit different....I think lol.

Now I know you will have no comeback, because there is no comeback. I am right and everyone knows it. YOU KNOW IT. You cant hit someone because he called you a name. That is wrong. Thats what terrorists do. Thats what Hitler would do.

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Are you for real...AGAIN????????????????

Thats completely different. Violence to stop violence is something else. But using violence because someone called you a name??????????? Comon K Man, you are smarter than that.
Which is why the cold way and Mussolini references are in there. Justify those from your pro italian-american stance. In fact don't, I'm just so sick of this argument, I agree Zidane's response was incorrect I just cant accept you think Materazzi is some sort of saint.
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What did Materazzi do that was so wrong????? EVERYONE TALKS TRASH ON THE FIELD.
Are you that naive to think players dont talk trash to each other?

I play cards, sports and trust me, we talk trash everytime. On the poker table is a warzone, but no1 throws a punch. We have come close many times, but nobody is that retarded. Cool heads prevail.

I have never said Materazzi was a Saint, dont keep putting words in my mouth because you cant seem to come up with an argument. But what I am saying is, Materazzi didnt do anything that deserved getting knocked out.

Whatever, I guess we will never agree on this, but remember this: trash talk is to sports, like breathing is to humans.

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Hey Narc it's this simple go and give Dak shit for his religion and see how he takes it. I'll tell you now he'll hit out. That's exactly why Zidane reacted, I play soccer myself and I know how to wind-up and how to keep my head while I'm being wound-up. But it's simple in soccer, two things are completely off-limits religion and race. Your boy broke that rule and if it could have been proved he would have walked at the same time. You can't keep defending him because his posistion is undefensible. Was Zidane stupid? Yes. But does that absolve greasy-boy of guilt? No. Live with that and accept it.
Narc you're blind.
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