Vince Young/Reggie Bush

Dr. Giganto

Sports Moderator

Why can't I be a sportswriter? Is it because I actually have some logic and common sense, and I wouldn't make outrageous statements just for the sake of making them? That must be it.

I just read an article by ESPN's resident moron Skip Bayless stating that taking Vince Young over Reggie Bush would be the 2006 equivalent of passing up on Michael Jordan in 1984.

Why is it that sportswriters have to take one game and always use it to blow everything out of proportion? Reggie Bush won the Heisman Trophy, and he did that while splitting carries! He averaged like 8 yards per carry for the entire season. His partner in the backfield, LenDale White, broke the USC TD recrod, and he's only a junior. Could you imagine the numbers Bush would have put up if White wasn't around?

So how could anybody say that drafting Bush over Young is a collossal mistake? Now, I'm not saying that Young is an inferior player, or even that he doesnt deserve to go #1, because he might. But to say that passing up on Young would be a terrible is absolutely moronic.

For one thing, QB is the most difficult position to predict how well a college player will perform in the pros. Remember how Michael Vick was supposed to revolutionize the game? That hasnt exactly happened now, has it? Alex Smith looked pretty poor in his first season, and we're still waiting for Eli to realize his potential. In fact, here are some of the recent first round QBs...

Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
JP Losman
Carson Palmer
Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
Micahel Vick
Chad Pennington
Tim Couch
Donovan McNabb
Akili Smith
Daunte Culpepper
Cade McNown
Peyton Manning
Ryan Leaf
Jim Druckenmiller

Get the point? There are far more QB busts (Leaf, Akili Smith, Couch) than successes (Peyton, McNabb). Reggie Bush is a MUCH safer bet than Vince Young.

Also, let the record show, that the Houston Rockets, who ironically had the first overall pick in Jordan's year (ironic because it's another Houston team faced with this dilemma this year), selected future Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon who led them to 2 World Championships. not too shabby. not Jordan, of course, but I'm sure they'll take it.

Skip Bayless sucks. How can he still be employed?

Blitzkrieg

Administrator

i've been wondering for years on why Skip Bayless is still employed. Actually, I have SportsCenter on right now. Why does Sean Salisbury still have a job? He's a friggin' moron.

On the whole Bush/Young thing.. I have to agree with you. Bush is the much safer pick, Texans would be making a bit of a gamble IMO if they went anywhere else with the 1st pick.

The only debate I've ben having, including on here with Freak and DMW, is that if I was the Saints, I'd take Young over Leinhart. Reason being, Leinhart might be safe to be at least a decent QB, but to me doesn't have the on-field potential of Young nor the marketing potential of Young. And The Saints could really use a face like Young's to market their poor franchise. Much like what Atlanta was able to do with Vick.

As far as those QB's you've listed.. We have to wait for a lot of them right now to see where they are. Rodgers and Rivers haven't even gotten to play yet. There are a ton of guys that sucked though..

I'll even go back to the likes of Ty Detmer or Andre Ware. It's extremely tough to find a QB that's a "lock".. I'm not sure if it even exists. Maybe Elway or somebody like that was a lock coming out.. Who else? I dunno..

Dr. Giganto

Sports Moderator

I heard that LenDale white will not fall below the Packers at #5. So, as of right now, it looks like the top 5 will be some combination of Young, Bush, Leinart, White, and D'Brickasahw Ferguson (awesome name).

Blitzkrieg

Administrator

I'm still brooding over the Niners winning the last week of the season over the Texans. Pissed me off. Lose all year, and then win when you shouldn't.. Arghh!!

I want the Niners to take DeAngelo Williams out of Memphis. I love what I've seen from him.

Dr. Giganto

Sports Moderator

Originally I was going to say that the Jets should trade up to get one of the Big 3, but now I'm starting to think they should just take LenDale White.

Or, if Green Bay is as interested in him as I've read they are, trade down a spot, take that big offensive tackle, and get an extra second-rounder from the Pack.

Freak

The LenDale rumours are seem pretty unfounded, considering the source was the NY Post.

That said, I really wouldn't mind seeing him in Green Bay. I think you could even make an argument that he's a safer pick than Reggie Bush at RB, though of course I'd rather the potential of a Reggie Bush.

All things considered, I still want AJ Hawk BADLY. Even Mario Williams, maybe.