What score tommorrow Deadly D?

K Jay

and who do you think will get the first?

I think giggs first but england 4-1.

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The Phantom

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0-9 - Robert Page own goal, lol

Seriously i'm not expecting much, as long as we compete for the first 20mins, have a good go and don't roll over and die I'll be happy. We simpely don't have the players to compete with you guys, our defence is filled with lower league players, all expet Gabbidon who's Premiership quality. However if we take the lead in the first 20mins watch out! lol. Toshack has given us structure and discipline, so I think we'll play alot better than we did up in Old Trafford last year.

I'm actually going to the match, and I can't wait. Should be an incredible atmosphere at the stadium as always, I haven't missed an International game at the Millennium Stadium for a few years now, but the last one I did miss was our 2-1 victory over Italy! So I should learn not to go! ha ha

Okay real Prediction 0-5 (Rooney (2), Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard)

K Jay

Enjoy the day D. Im having a Bar-B here for it and my best mate is from the Rhonda so we've got our token welshman to bait all match. Should be a good occasion.

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Tyler Durden

I'd be happy with any kind of win to help us on our way to Germany. Hope it is a good game but these games usually aren't. Can't see us thrashing them at all.

Crocker

Im going to the bookies and having 2-0, Rooney 1st goal

The Phantom

I'll gladly take a 2-0 loss!

You have to beat Northern Ireland by more goals than you beat us, I hate them, plus I don't want us to be the worst home nation!

K Jay

Most boring game ever... Well done Wales you take a moral victory from that.

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The Phantom

I didn't find it boring, but then I was actually there. England didn't impress me one bit, the amount of possession they had they should have killed us. Whoever suggested 4-5-1 formation weather it was Sven or the players should be shot. Rooney doesn't play as an up and up striker he likes the freedom to wonder, so he can't really play as the lone striker up front, a player like Alan Shearer is best at that. And also by sticking one up front you've got less targets for when crosses come from wide.

Ryan Giggs played is heart out for Wales today, it's a shame the players around it are a level below what he's used to playing with. Our goalkeeper Danny Coyne was supurb, in previous matches he's lost his concentration and droped clangers that David James would have been proud of! When Earnie came on he was a real handfull, Rio couldn't cope, he was pulling and tugging at his shirt all the time.

Overall we showed a good structure and defended well, we gave possesion away far too easily but that's something that'll come from these players playing more together. We're playing more like a team now than we did under Hughes, so hopfully the future of Welsh football is bright.

Oh and one last thing.... England aint winning no world cup playing like that!

K Jay

Im with you on the 4-5-1 theory.

Teams like Chelsea make it work week in week out with dedicated wingers (robben, duff, wright-phillips etc) ans instead of pushing the wingers wide (as Beckham did with every ball) they play tight introspective passing. The thing is England cant do this because they dont train and play with each other week in week out.

Overall I think this entire thing is down to Beckham trying to secure his place. Well I can respect what he has brought to the England team over the past 8 years it is very plain to see his engine does not run as it did 4 years back when he went flat out 90 mins every time he pulled on an England shirt. Now faced with the prospect that SWP is a far better player in his posistion he has tried to create a role for himself with Sven as a play maker. All well and good but when you have Steven Gerrard who naturally takes up the posistions Becks tried to play today, and who distributes the ball at least equally good if not better it's time to give up. I think the armband should now pass to Terry or Gerrard and Beckham should face up to battling SWP for his place. Time will tell who is the better player and indeed sometimes Beckham's cooler head and range of passing will beat SWP's pace and flair, but at the end of the day Beckham has got to see that he isnt England's driving force anymore, and more importantly so should Sven.

PS - was lamps there today because he sure didnt show up on TV

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The Phantom

Lol, I didn't notice him or Gerrard much at all during the game. I agree with you a little bit in terms of Beckham trying to secure his place in the side, but lets face it if you were England captain and you had his suposed influence on team selection you'd try and make sure you were in the side every time they played. Saying that I thought Beckham was one of, if not the best player on Saturday. He was very effective in the role he was deployed in. Saying that we more or less left him alone, and didn't press him too much which allowed him the space and time to pick out his passes, of which one of them lead to the goal. He will not get the time or space against a better side.

Any thoughts on the Northern Ireland game?