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| Your MLB All-Star ballots We're two months into the season, the All-Star game is a month away, who do you think should be the starters for each team. Remember, its 3 OFs from any position, not 1 from each. It's in an AL park this year, so pick a DH from the AL squads AL: Catcher: Jason Varitek - .311, 10 HRs, 20 RBIs First base: Mark Texeira - .288, 13 HRs, 36 RBIs, 39 runs scored Second base: Brian Roberts - .368, 11 HRs, 33 RBIs, 13 SBs, 39 runs scored Shortstop: Miguel Tejada - .329, 14 HRs, 46 RBIs, Third base: Alex Rodriguez - .319, 17 HRs, 49 RBIs, 43 runs scored Outfield: Johnny Damon - .354, 42 runs scored, 7 SBs Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki - .321, 15 SBs, 38 runs scored Outfield: Gary Sheffield - .324, 9 HRs, 36 RBIs DH: David Ortiz - .302, 12 HRs, 39 RBIs, 35 runs scored NL Catcher: Ramon Hernandez - .299, 6 HRs, 29 RBIs First base: Derrick Lee - .380, 17 HRs, 50 RBIs, 41 runs scored, 9 stolen bases Second base: Jeff Kent - .254, 9 HRs, 38 RBIs, 35 runs scored Shortstop: Clint Barmes - .325, 7 HRs, 29 RBIs, 36 runs scored Third base: Troy Glaus - .262, 13 HRs, 36 RBIs Outfield: Bobby Abreu - .339, 12 HRs, 37 RBIs, 14 SBs, 37 runs scored Outfield: Miguel Cabrera - .355, 10 HRs, 34 RBIs, 35 runs scored Outfield: Carlos Lee - .268, 13 HRs, 46 RBIs | |||||||||||||||
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| Fuck it, I'll do back-ups too...32-man roster, I'll go with 12 pitchers, 20 position players, at least 1 from each team AL pitchers: Kenny Rogers - 7-2, 1.67 ERA Roy Halladay - 8-2, 2.54 ERA Jon Garland - 8-2, 3.22 ERA Matt Clement - 6-0, 3.06 ERA Johan Santana - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 91 Ks Mark Buehrle - 7-1, 3.07 ERA Bartolo Colon - 6-3, 2.75 ERA Eric Bedard - 5-1, 2.08 ERA BJ Ryan - 0-0, 14 Saves, 1.33 ERA Dustin Hermanson - 0-0, 11 saves, 0.82 ERA Eddie Guardado - 0-1, 15 saves, 1.71 ERA Mariano Rivera - 2-2, 12 saves, 1.47 ERA Just missed: Chris Young, Jeremy Bonderman, Cliff Lee, Francisco Cordero, Joe Nathan, Bob Wickman AL bench Catcher: Joe Mauer: .307, 4 HRs, 17 RBIs First base: Mike Sweeney - .301, 9 HRs, 35 RBIs First base: Richie Sexson - .247, 13 HRs, 42 RBIs Second base: Ronnie Belliard - .292, 7 HRs, 22 RBIs Second base: Alfonso Soriano - .284, 14 HRs, 33 RBIs, 41 runs scored, 8 SBs Shortstop: Carlos Guillen - .361, 2 HRs, 12 RBIs Shortstop: Derek Jeter - .291, 5 HRs, 20 RBIs, 36 runs scored, 8 SBs Third base: Melvin Mora - .297, 10 HRs, 31 RBIs, 6 SBs Outfield: Mark Kotsay - .292, 2 HRs, 26 RBIs Outfield: Carl Crawford - .264, 5 HRs, 28 RBIs, 14 SBs Outfield: Garrett Anderson - .301, 6 HRs, 40 RBIs Outfield: Manny Ramirez - .257, 11 HRs, 43 RBIs Just missed: Paul Konerko, Ivan Rodriguez, Jorge Posada, Shea Hillenbrand, Hank Blalock, Scott Posdesnik NL pitchers: Dontrelle Willis - 8-2, 1.67 ERA Roger Clemens - 3-3, 1.30 ERA Josh Beckett - 7-3, 2.62 ERA Livan Hernandez - 8-2, 3.61 ERA Adam Eaton - 7-1, 3.58 ERA Tim Hudson - 6-3, 3.00 ERA Pedro Martinez - 5-1, 2.79 ERA Jake Peavy - 5-0, 2.37 ERA Jason Isringhausen - 0-0, 16 saves, 0.49 ERA Chad Cordero - 2-1, 13 saves, 1.33 ERA, Brandon Lyon - 0-2, 13 saves, 1.96 ERA Todd Jones - 0-1, 8 saves, 1.48 ERA Just missed: Trevor Hoffman, Billy Wagner, Jose Mesa, Mike Hampton, Brett Myers, Roy Oswalt, Brandon Webb, Mark Prior NL Bench: Catcher: Michael Barrett- .270, 5 HRs, 20 RBIs First base: Albert Pujols - .327, 12 HRs, 42 RBIs, 37 runs scored First base: Adam Dunn - .235, 14 HRs, 27 RBIs, 33 runs scored First base: Carlos Delgado - .313, 10 HRs, 35 RBIs, Second base: Mark Grudzielanek - .344, 3 HRs, 22 RBIs Shortstop: Cesar Izturis - .345, 34 runs scored, 1 HR, 20 RBIs Third Base: David Wright - .299, 8 HRs 29 RBIs, 33 runs scored Outfield: Jim Edmonds - .280, 10 HRs, 33 RBIs Outfield: Jason Bay - .295, 11 HRs, 25 RBIs, 33 runs scored, 4 SBs Outfield: Pedro Feliz - .278, 8 HRs, 32 RBIs Outfield: Brady Clark - .342, 6 HRs, 24 RBIs, 41 runs scored Outfield: Pat Burrell - .311, 9 HRs, 42 RBIs Just missed: Chipper Jones, Rob Mackowiak, Nick Johnson, Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins, Brian Giles | |||||||||||||||
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| I can't really disagree with any of your original picks. Is Torre coaching the AL again this year (forgot how the coaching selection works)? If so, change your reserves to the rest of the Yankee roster. I don't know what's worse...the fact Torre does that, or the fact he's allowed to get away with it. | |||||||||||||||
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| No...its the managers of the teams that played in the W.S. the year before...so it's Francona and LaRussa | |||||||||||||||
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| I keep getting the Pro Bowl setup mixed up with baseball. Gotcha, that's it...WS managers, runner-ups in NFL. My comment about Torre being a pud still stands, though. ![]() | |||||||||||||||
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| I'll give Torre credit though, he at least admits it...I remember him justifying it one time by saying "Well, they're my guys, so if it comes down to them or somebody else, of course I'm gonna pick my guys" And to be honest, there have only been a few instances where a marginal All-Star candidate from the Yankees has made the team over a deserving candidate. After all, they have made the playoffs 10 straight years, and won the division in 7 straight years...I'll go back and look at the All-Star rosters under the Torre era... | |||||||||||||||
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| * denotes voted in by fans. 1997-2001 stats are for the full season, 2002 and 2004 stats are through All-Star break: 1997: David Cone - 12-6 2.82 Tino Martinez* - .296 44 141 Paul O'Neill* - .324 21 117 Mariano Rivera - 6-4 43 saves 1.88 Bernie Williams - .328 21 100 1999: David Cone - 12-9 3.44 Derek Jeter*- .349 24 102 Mariano Rivera - 4-3 45 saves 1.83 Bernie Williams* - .342 25 115 2000: Derek Jeter* - .339 15 73 Jorge Posada - .287 28 86 Mariano Rivera - 7-4 41 saves 2.85 Bernie Williams* - .307 30 121 2001: Roger Clemens - 20-3 3.51 Derek Jeter .311 21 74 Andy Pettitte - 15-10 3.99 Jorge Posada .277 22 95 Mariano Rivera - 50 saves 2.34 Mike Stanton 9-4 2.58 Bernie Williams .307 26 94 2002: Mariano Rivera 21 saves 1.47 ERA Robin Ventura - .263 19 62 Jason Giambi* - .318 22 71 Jorge Posada* - .266 15 58 Alfonso Soriano* - .315, 20, 51 Derek Jeter - .312 12 43 2004: Derek Jeter* - .273 13 40 Alex Rodriguez* - .276 19 50 Jason Giambi* - .239 11 31 Javier Vazquez - 9-5 3.50 Tom Gordon - 2 saves 1.51 Mariano Rivera - 29 saves 0.86 Gary Sheffield - .298 13 53 Hideki Matsui* - .282 16 54 The questionable choices I see are Cone in 1997 and 1999 (although a 2.82 ERA in the AL is phenomenal), Pettitte and Stanton in 2001, and Vazquez and Gordon last year (Vazquez, in fact, was an injury replacement, and wasnt originally named an All-Star). Everything else seems justified | |||||||||||||||
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| If you look at the raw numbers, yeah. But that's not taking into account the stats of people overlooked. I remember for a fact a few White Sox players that were more deserving than some of his selections. No, I don't expect you to look up the stats of every other player over those times. :P Your point of the Yankees success is valid, I just don't agree that Torre is justified in selecting his guys like he does. | |||||||||||||||
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| Oh, he's definitely picked his guys over some other more deserving guys. I certainly cant deny that, ESPECIALLY picking middle relievers like Gordon and Stanton. The only time I can remember a middle reliever deserving to be on an All-Star team was when tha guy Zimmerman on the Rangers was like 8-0 with an ERA below 1.00 at the break. I was just making the point that its not as terrible as some people make it out to be. Its not like he was picking guys like Chad Curtis and Luis Sojo | |||||||||||||||
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