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Yeah, you suck. lol



(kidding of course, that was great recollection!)

Dr. Giganto

You know, I think Lou Piniella is on to something with this "Devil Rays management isnt trying to win" thing

After all, they just cut Alex Sanchez, I guess because he's only batting .346!!!

What the fuck is wrong with them???

Danny Diamond

Founder/Admin

Pinella will be the next NYY manager.

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Yeah he will be.

And MLB needs to fold that POS TB franchise stat. Same with Florida, Washington, and Arizona. Then we work on losing Toronto and Minnesota. Realign the leagues and divisions so they make sense, get rid of interleague play since the rivalries it created are now division rivalries.

I should be commissioner. I would so kick that sport in the hinder.

Dr. Giganto

You know the D-Rays have like a 30-year lease for their piece of shit stadium? That franchise is such a mess, it's ridiculous

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Whoever had the idea to expand into Florida (or Arizona...or Canada) should be beaten. What's really frightening is that the White Sox were going to move out to TB in the late 80s until they got their stadium deal at the 11th hour. There's so little market out there for pro sports. Good football support, but that's 8 times a year. The other sports have attendance problems fairly regulary there.

I'm all for contraction to protect the integrity of the game.

Blitzkrieg

I'm for contraction too but I would hate to see some teams with history wiped away...


D-Rays...who cares? But with the rest of the teams (And I thought Washington was doing well?) I would keep around until after some sort of salary cap is implemented into the sport. If fans still don't come to the ballparks then fine, cut them.

Dr. Giganto

I found myself watching the final round of the US Open yesterday...first time I've watched at length since the furst time Tiger won the Masters

If Tiger hadnt missed two short putts on 16 and 17, he would've gone to a playoff...

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Top 10 career RBI leaders:

1) Hank Aaron
2,297

2) Babe Ruth
2,213

3) Lou Gehrig
1,995

4) Stan Musial
1,951

5) Ty Cobb
1,937

6) Jimmie Foxx
1,922

7) Eddie Murray
1,917

8) Willie Mays
1,903

9) Cap Anson
1,880

10) Mel Ott
1,860

Did you know...that back in the day, around when guys like Ruth, Cobb, Anson, and I think Foxx played that RBIs in walkoff situations above what you needed to win weren't counted?

Example...Ruth comes up with bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th (or bottom of an extra inning) in a 2-2 game. He jacks a slam, but he gets only 1 RBI credited to him instead of 4 like he would today and the final score would be 3-2 instead of 6-2. Makes you wonder how many RBIs some of these guys really had. I forget when this rule was changed, I'm thinking in the 50s or 60s. Definitely post-war though.

Dr. Giganto

oh wow, i didnt know about that rule...I dont think it made THAT much of a difference though.

Look at it this way, Babe Ruth had 714 Home runs. Now, let's just say, for simplicity's sake, that he hit exactly half of his homeruns on the road. Since it's impossible to hit a walk-off on the road, that would mean he would have had at most 357 walk-off homeruns.

Now, lets just assume he hit an equal number of homeruns in each inning of the game, and we'll also count all extra-inning games as one "inning". Since a walk-off can only come in the ninth inning or later, that means that at most, one-fifth of those home-runs could have possibly been walk-offs. That leaves us with 70 homeruns, at home, in the ninth inning or later.

Assuming that Babe Ruth's teams for his career, won 4 out of every 7 games (that would be an average record of 88-76, which is reasonable) that would mean that roughly 40 of Ruth's 714 homeruns came in the ninth-inning or later in home games.

Now you can break those homeruns down even further. He could have hit a home-run that was not a walk-off, hit a home-run to put the Yankees up by one, two, three, or 4 runs. Assuming those 4 instances have an equal probability of happening, that means that Ruth would have had roughly 32 walk-off homeruns for his career (a fairly high number, even for Babe Ruth).

If 8 of those put the Yankees up by one run, that would mean that Ruth hit 24 walk-off homeruns where he was deprived of RBIs. 8 of them would have deprived him of 1 RBI, 8 would have deprived him of 2 RBIs, and 8 would have deprived him of 3 RBIs. Meaning that the rule would have cost Ruth roughly 48 RBIs for his career. It could have been more, it could have been less (I would guess it was less), but it almost certainly was less than 50 RBIs that it cost Ruth for his career