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Report: A-Rod tested positive in 2003
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A-Rod Tests Positive for Steroids
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Saturday, February 7, 2009 Report: A-Rod tested positive in 2003
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To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. tested positive for anabolic steroids in 2003, when he was with the To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and won the AL home run title and MVP award, according to a report by Sports Illustrated.
According to the report, which was posted Saturday morning on SI.com, sources told the publication that Rodriguez was on a list of 104 players who tested positive that year, when Major League Baseball conducted survey tests to see if mandatory, random drug-testing was needed.
Sources who know about the testing results told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez tested positive for testosterone and Primobolan, an anabolic steroid.
In 2003, there were no penalties for a positive result.
Rodriguez, reached at a Miami gym Thursday for comment by Sports Illustrated, said: "You'll have to talk to the union."
Asked if there were an explanation for the positive test result, Rodriguez told SI: "I'm not saying anything."
Sources confirmed to ESPN's T.J. Quinn that Rodriguez, now with the To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , was aware he tested positive for steroids in 2003.
Primobolan, also known as methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug. It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development and few side effects. It is not an approved prescription drug in the United States. Testosterone can be taken legally with a prescription.
In a December 2007 interview with "60 Minutes," however, three days after George Mitchell's report on drugs in the sport was released, Rodriguez denied using performance-enhancing drugs.
"I've never felt overmatched on the baseball field. ... I felt that if I did my, my work as I've done since I was, you know, a rookie back in Seattle, I didn't have a problem competing at any level," he said on "60 Minutes."
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said: "At this stage, we have no comment."
The Rangers also told ESPN they would not comment.
Scott Boras, who spoke with ESPN's Karl Ravech, said Rodriguez is out of the country. Boras added that he would not have any official statement and will wait to see what Rodriguez wants to do.
Boras said he has no knowledge of any positive tests for Rodriguez. With regard to Rodriguez and his image, Boras said: "In a worst-case scenario, if they were true, it was one season and since then Alex has gotten the good housekeeping seal the last 5 years."
The Major League Baseball Players Association issued a statement Saturday afternoon: "Information and documents relating to the results of the 2003 MLB testing program are both confidential and under seal by court orders. We are prohibited from confirming or denying any allegation about the test results of any particular player[s] by the collective bargaining agreement and by court orders. Anyone with knowledge of such documents who discloses their contents may be in violation of those court orders."
Major League Baseball said it was "disturbed" by the report, but did not elaborate because of player confidentiality.
"Because the survey testing that took place in 2003 was intended to be nondisciplinary and anonymous, we cannot make any comment on the accuracy of this report as it pertains to the player named," MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred said.
Survey testing was created in 2003, in an agreement with the MLBPA, to see if mandatory testing and penalties needed to be implemented in 2004 -- it also was specifically designed to ensure players would not be identified.
The actual samples of 1,198 players were kept in one lab in Las Vegas and had codes, not players' names. A list with the names and corresponding codes was in an office in Long Beach, Calif. They were never supposed to be united.
MLB and the union had a deal with the company that any negative samples were to be automatically destroyed after 30 days. However, because of the current To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. investigation and the evidence the government is seeking to present in his current perjury case, it is now known that samples were not destroyed.
Federal agents, with search warrants, raided the labs in April 2004, looking for the 2003 results of 10 players believed to be linked with their BALCO investigation. In their search, however, investigators came upon the full list of 104 players -- which reportedly included Rodriguez's name.
Shortly thereafter, the union notified the 104 players whose samples were seized that they had tested positive.
Rodriguez has never been linked to the BALCO case.
Sports Illustrated also reported that according to three big league players, Rodriguez in September 2004 was tipped off by union chief operating officer Gene Orza that he would be tested later that month. SI asked Rodriguez about the allegation, but he declined to comment.
Orza, according to the 2007 Mitchell report, had violated the union's agreement with MLB by informing a player about an upcoming drug test. The player was not identified in the report.
SI questioned Orza on Friday about the tipping allegations, and Orza responded: "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."
The union statement on Saturday also addressed the allegations. "As we have explained previously, in detail and in public, there was no improper tipping of players in 2004 about the timing of drug tests."
More than 5 percent of players in the majors tested positive for performance-enhancing substances in the '03 survey, and mandatory testing was implemented -- including provisions for penalties -- in 2004.
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<cite>Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images</cite>Alex Rodriguez, shown here in June 2003, finished that season first in the American League in home runs (47), runs (124) and slugging percentage (.600).
Even if Major League Baseball were to confirm that Rodriguez was one of the players to test positive in 2003, he would not be subject to any sort of discipline based on that testing.
However, if information emerges about positive tests from 2004 on, circumstances could change. There have been players connected with HGH purchases from 2004 and forward, for example, who have been subject to discipline by the commissioner's office.
"I think in the climate that we have today, you don't have much shock anymore," Rangers senior adviser John Hart said on the MLB Network. Hart was the general manager during the 2003 season.
"Obviously Alex probably is the best player in baseball. This has always been a special talent and the guy has been putting up Hall of Fame numbers since the day he showed up in the big leagues. It saddens me. I've been in the game for almost 40 years and it hurts a little bit, if in fact this is true."
Rodriguez played for the Rangers from 2001 to 2003. He was traded to the Yankees in 2004. He is drawing a major league-high $27 million salary after signing a record $275 million, 10-year contract with New York in 2007.
Fernando Montes, a former director of conditioning for the Rangers, told ESPN that he informed Jon Daniels, now the team's general manager but its assistant GM at the time, that he suspected Rodriguez was using steroids in 2003.
Montes said he had no direct proof, but added: "Without a doubt, though, this was more than an educated guess." Montes said Daniels had no direct knowledge of Rodriguez using steroids, only what Montes told him.
Reached by ESPN, Daniels said: "I have no recollection of that conversation."
Hart pronounced himself saddened by the Sports Illustrated report.
"It breaks my heart for the game that we have this kind of thing occurring,'' he said. "But at the same time, a lot of people seem to have been caught in this net.''
Information from The Associated Press, ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick, ESPN The Magazine senior writer Buster Olney and ESPN's T.J. Quinn was used in this report.
Sorry for the spacing. I hate the way ESPN does their articles.
I'm just glad that at least some of the speculation can stop. There will of course still be blind Yankee fans who will attempt to rationalize this, but it is what it is. I for one never really got into baseball. I find it boring. Maybe that's because I'm not good at it. Maybe I'm not good at it because I don't take fucking steroids. Seriously, all the good hitters these days are juicing. Steroids are literally re-writing the record books. Just another reason for me to dislike the sport.
I love baseball personally, I do believe to a guy who wasn't brought up on baseball, it's really hard to get into nowadays with all the controversy. One thing I would like to say here though is, I'd really love it if A-Rod would come out and say, "Yes, I did steroids in 2003, I apologize for my actions, and it was wrong for me to do so, You can test me now, and you will see that I am clean(if it's true)" That would be 10x better for the game overall then all the dodginess we're going to get from him
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wait are you saying Magic Johnson is black, has AIDS and has it better than ME?
In a basic sense, I don't really have a major issue with A-Rod having used. I'm pretty sure that was still when baseball didn't have a rule to forbid it. So many stars from that period were using. What I do have major issue with is the hypocrisy of denying that he used them for so long.
I do believe to a guy who wasn't brought up on baseball, it's really hard to get into nowadays with all the controversy.
Maybe I didn't express it properly above, but my disdain for the sport has very little to do with "nowadays", I just don't like baseball. It's boring and unexciting. With that said, I still go college and AAA games when there's nothing else to do in the summer.
But I will say my view of MLB has been tainted recently. It's abundantly obvious that there is a huge steroid epidemic in the majors, and it has been there for years, but everyone still wants to single out the guys who get caught and otherwise sweep the real problem under the rug.
I believe there's already a statement from A-Rod in which he said, "Talk to the Union. I'm not saying anything."
So there you have it. I'm not surprised at all. Not because he's bulked up, which he clearly has since being in Seattle, but because I don't trust anyone from this era or their obscene numbers. A-Rod is a total prick, always has been. You cannot expect to see anything good come out of this on his end.
I guess it was a good day for Barry Bonds. Now all this "His records will be broken be someone who is CLEAN~!" talk can cease to exist.
Also, a good day for Canseco. He might be a scumbag, but everyone he's outed has been proven to have shot up.
Totally agree SS. It's really crazy to think about how accurate alot of what Jose Canseco said in his books has been dead on. He stated in his first book that up to 80% of players were juicing. It's sad to say that that many could be doing it.
It's just the steroid era. Players are going to be assumed to be guilty when they take dramatic jumps and such. We gotta get used to it.
Also, Fuck you A-Rod. Pussy.
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Maybe the problem with the Bluejays lately is that there start players don't take roids? or maybe they just suck, I dunno.
But yeah, I agree with SS that he really should have and COULD have handled the situation better. I'm not sure what you can do about the wide spread use of Steroids but its amazing me how every offseason it seems like a big issue, you think they would get it cleared up.
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Griffey is the best. I really love him as a ballplayer. I have NEVER seen a guy with as smooth a swing as he has. EVER.
It's really a shame that he was derailed by injuries. Could have been the best player in the history of the game.
I actually used to be a Griffey hater, but it was mainly because I was a young guy and he wasn't on the Sox. I was jealous of his play. Now I just totally respect him. Crazy that "the kid" is 39 now.
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