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OXON HILL, Md. -- Giving in to the young-and-younger movement in college basketball recruiting, the NCAA has ...
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NCAA deems 7th-graders as prospects
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OXON HILL, Md. -- Giving in to the young-and-younger movement in college basketball recruiting, the NCAA has decreed that seventh-graders are now officially classified as prospects.
The organization voted Thursday to change the definition of a prospect from ninth grade to seventh grade - for men's basketball only - to nip a trend in which some college coaches were working at private, elite camps and clinics for seventh- and eighth-graders. The NCAA couldn't regulate those camps because those youngsters fell below the current cutoff.
"It's a little scary only because -- we talked about this -- where does it stop?" said Joe D'Antonio, chairman of the 31-member Division I Legislative Council, which approved the change during a two-day meeting at the NCAA Convention. "The fact that we've got to this point is really just a sign of the times."
Schools had expressed concern that the younger-age elite camps were giving participating coaches a recruiting advantage, pressuring other coaches to start their own camps.
"The need to nip that in the bud was overwhelming," said Steve Mallonee, the NCAA's managing director of academic and membership affairs.
While men's basketball is the only sport affected, D'Antonio said he could envision future discussions on lowering the limit for other sports, notably football.
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press
This is quite ridiculous if you ask me. 7th grade? I don't know about you guys, but when I was in 7th grade, I was in the middle of puberty and my main interests were skateboarding, pro wrestling (no offense), and fireworks. The last thing I was worried about was college. How would you even be able to tell if a 7th grader is good at basketball yet? Their body hasn't fully developed, and they've had almost no time to develop their skills. Are there some good ball players under the age of 12? Sure, but they are the exception, not the rule.
Of course the coaches are acting unethically by trying to recruit 7th graders, but I put the blame mostly on the NCAA. This new rule does nothing to curb the dishonest practices; instead, it seems to reward them: So they realize that coaches are abusing the system by coaching basketball camps with younger than 9th graders in them, and instead of scolding and/or punishing the coaches doing this, or making a rule against coaches coaching camps with kids this young, they essentially make it much easier for coaches to do this by lowering the prospect age minimum.
So they ignore the problem and actually make the unethical practice easier by loosening the regulations.
I think the most hilarious part is now that they are restricting 7th and 8th graders, they won't get the sometimes invaluable teaching of the coach during these camps. So not only do you not really solve the problem, you also hinder the kids. Myles Brand = genius
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wait are you saying Magic Johnson is black, has AIDS and has it better than ME?
I think the most hilarious part is now that they are restricting 7th and 8th graders, they won't get the sometimes invaluable teaching of the coach during these camps. So not only do you not really solve the problem, you also hinder the kids. Myles Brand = genius
Where was it said that 7th and 8th graders are restricted from the camps now? My understanding of the reasoning behind the new regulation is that it was needed because college coaches were coaching 7th graders in these camps, and the camps could not be regulated by the NCAA. The new rule makes 7th graders official prospects, therefore making these camps where coaches are teaching 7th graders perfectly legal.
Were you referencing some other article or some other rule that I don't know about?
Where was it said that 7th and 8th graders are restricted from the camps now? My understanding of the reasoning behind the new regulation is that it was needed because college coaches were coaching 7th graders in these camps, and the camps could not be regulated by the NCAA. The new rule makes 7th graders official prospects, therefore making these camps where coaches are teaching 7th graders perfectly legal.
Were you referencing some other article or some other rule that I don't know about?
As I understood some of the recruiting regulations, they're only allowed x number of camps/visits, etc. Why would a coach waste 1 of x camps on 7th graders when it quite possibly could influence the decision of someone who could help his immediate future(11th/12th graders). I will admit I'm unfamiliar at best with all the recruiting regulations, and bylaws, but this was how I understood some of the regulations on coaches.
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wait are you saying Magic Johnson is black, has AIDS and has it better than ME?
As I understood some of the recruiting regulations, they're only allowed x number of camps/visits, etc. Why would a coach waste 1 of x camps on 7th graders when it quite possibly could influence the decision of someone who could help his immediate future(11th/12th graders). I will admit I'm unfamiliar at best with all the recruiting regulations, and bylaws, but this was how I understood some of the regulations on coaches.
That's a general benefit of this new regulation, and it does encourage coaches to focus on older kids, but this is what I was responding to:
I think the most hilarious part is now that they are restricting 7th and 8th graders, they won't get the sometimes invaluable teaching of the coach during these camps.
Where was it said that 7th and 8th graders are now restricted from the camps? My guess is that the camps will continue to operate, and 7th graders will still go, they just (in all likelihood) won't be coached by college coaches anymore.
In some states 7th and 8th graders are allowed to play varsity sports if good enough, so why not, if they're good enough to be playin varsity in 7th grade like OJ Mayo and Bill Walker was in kentucky, why not be able to.
I do agree this seems awfully weird, but as a very small counter-point doesn't it at least encourage these middle-schoolers to think about grades and meeting college requirements? That could be seen as a plus, I guess.
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