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Old 06-27-2009, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Michael Jackson to be embalmed

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Michael Jackson set to be embalmed at the O2 Centre after missing the deadline for cryogenic freezing

Michael Jackson will live on as a 'plastinated' creature preserved by German doctor Gunther von Hagens.

Von Hagens has caused controversy with everyone from the Pope to the chief rabbi in Israel with his practice of embalming corpses with preserving polyurethane.

Yesterday, he declared: 'An agreement is in place to plastinate the King of Pop.'


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Von Hagens said that he spoke with representatives of the Jackson family 'many months ago' and it was agreed that his body will be plastinated and placed next to Bubbles, his late pet monkey who was plastinated a number of years ago and is exhibited at The Body Worlds & Mirror Of Time exhibition at the O2 Centre in London.

Von Hagens also confirmed it was one of Michael's final requests to be reunited with Bubbles.

'There is no better place than to do this at the venue where Jackson was due to perform his world record 50-date tour,' said a spokesman for Von Hagens.

He added: 'Von Hagens has hinted that a moonwalk pose would naturally be favoured. 'It is hoped the exhibit will be unveiled towards the end of July.'

It was widely believed that the singer, who died yesterday from a heart attack, was interested in having his body frozen in the hope he could later be brought back to life.

However, it is now too late for his wish to be granted as the freezing process - cryonics - must be initiated almost immediately after death but an autopsy on Jackson's body still needs to be carried out.


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Cryonic freezing: Michael Jackson would need to have been put in a supercooled chamber very soon after his death for it to be effective

Cryonics is the cooling of legally dead people to liquid nitrogen temperature where physical decay essentially stops, with the idea that technology developed in the future will be able to revive them.

No-one has ever been revived using this process although it is a popular subject in science fiction films such as Forever Young featuring Mel Gibson.

Despite this, cryogenic freezing has become more popular over time.

Media mogul Simon Cowell caused headlines recently after he said that he wanted to undergo the process.

'Medical science is bound to work out a way of bringing us back to life in the next century or so, and I want to be available when they do,' he said.

How cryonics works

The medical process is a complicated one. Immediately after a cryonic patient's death certificate is signed by a doctor, a cryonics team restores the heartbeat and respiration using a machine to help keep cells in organs and tissues alive.

The patient's body is then cooled from body temperature (37C) to 10C as quickly as possible using ice.


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Medication is added to their bloodstream to help preserve the body.

Blood is then removed from the body and replaced with a saline-like solution that stops the shrinking or swelling of cells and tissues.

Anti-freeze agents are added to the blood vessels and the body is placed in a special cooling box where it is cooled to between -120C and -196C and stored away.

However, for this process to have any chance of working, the cryonic process must be started just minutes after 'legal death' is verified by doctors.

This is because a dead person's brain will start to experience a build-up of lactic acid at room temperature. Within 24 hours it will have virtually dissolved.

So with an autopsy on Michael Jackson expected 24 hours after his death, it's already too late for the Peter Pan of pop who never wanted to grow up.
Hmm, this would be pretty weird. Arguably bad taste, but what the hell it would be amusing.

Moonwalk pose would be awesome.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

That sounds so fitting.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Anyway, this seems pretty lol. I don't expect much work will be needed seeing as he is 80% plastic anyway.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Crocker, can you kindly do me the favour of not editing my posts in future? k thanks.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Why was my post deleted? I can't have an opinion on the matter? Just cause he died? I'm not allowed to talk ill of the dead?
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

He was never a convicted peadophile, anymore insulting of this nature will result in an infraction.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Yet he still paid off all those families. OJ wasn't convicted of murder either, yet he was/is still considered a murderer. Am I right?
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

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Yet he still paid off all those families. OJ wasn't convicted of murder either, yet he was/is still considered a murderer. Am I right?
Thats your own opinion, legally, neither Jackson nor Simpson did anything wrong. In the case of Simpson, he didnt do anything wrong at the time.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Exactly what I was getting at. My opinion. Whether it is right or wrong or misinformed it is my opinion, and that is what forums are based on is people's views and opinions. If someone doesn't like/get's upset by other people's opinions then maybe they are at the wrong place. People are going to joke about it. The stigma of him being a pedophile and of Simpson being a murderer will always be there whether they were convicted or not. And like Simpson he ended up paying the families off after civil trials. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't do it.

Had he not died would this really be an issue? I can see if someone feels that talking ill of the deceased is wrong. I can see there point. But as you pointed out in Steve's thread in feedback, if you don't like what you may think will be in that thread then don't open it or read it.

I know you guys have jobs to do, but there are some things that are going quite overboard. We are being censored of our opinions and really it isn't right. No harm is coming to the person(s) getting offended and nothing is directed at a forum member.
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Re: Michael Jackson to be embalmed

Aside from this Crocker Drama, It sounds pretty creepy to let Mr. Plastic be preserved in this fashion.
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