Home > Sports Forums > MMA - Mixed Martial Arts » Wandi to 185?

Wandi to 185?

This is a discussion on Wandi to 185? within the MMA - Mixed Martial Arts forums, part of the Sports Forums category; Originally Posted by MMAWeekly Wandi to 185? Former Pride middleweight champion and UFC light heavyweight fighter Wanderlei Silva is considering ...


Welcome to Wrestling Clique Wrestling Forums

Hello and Welcome to WrestlingClique - Wrestling Forums!

We are the premier wrestling forum and your source for wrestling news and rumors, wrestling divas, wrestling gifs, sports discussion, e-feds, writing and more. Wrestling fans participate in active discussion on all the major wrestling leagues and events including WWE, ECW & TNA pay per view events, live wrestling streams, wrestling video games, collectibles, and other wrestling related products and services.

You're currently viewing our site as an unregistered guest which means you are limited to most discussions and features.

Take a few minutes to browse around, and if you like what you see, Register a free account to gain access to :

  • Richer content, access forums that are not viewable by the public.
  • Complete access to post topics, respond to polls, communicate privately (PM), take part contests,    arcade, photo sharing, networking, groups.
  • Create your personal profile and bio
  • Meet and Chat Live with other members who share similar interests

Registration is simple and fast. Won't take you more than a minute and of course it's completely free.
So Join our Community today!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-23-2008, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Warrior
Ancient and Loyal
 
Dmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, England
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 112
Dmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Thread Of The Month Best Thread Starter MMA Poster Of The Month MMA Poster Of The Month 
Total Awards: 5

Wandi to 185?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMAWeekly
Wandi to 185?

Former Pride middleweight champion and UFC light heavyweight fighter Wanderlei Silva is considering a move to the 185-pound division after his UFC 84 bout with Keith Jardine.

Silva made his return to the Octagon at UFC 79 against Chuck Liddell after an eight-year hiatus from the American organization. He will face Jardine on Saturday night in an attempt to get back on the winning track after suffering three losses in a row for the first time in his storied career.

Although predicting a knockout victory over Jardine, Silva is still considering a move down to the 185-pound division following his UFC 84 match-up.

"Maybe it's possible after this fight to fight at 185," said Silva. "The guys in my division are much tall, and it's hard. The guys are stronger, but I've fought in the division many times, many years. Here, the guys are much stronger. Maybe I'm going to fight next time at 185. I don't know. As long as they have good opponents for me at 185 too, maybe next time I go down. I don't know."

Silva expressed the desire to stay at 205 and fight UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson for a third time and a rematch with Chuck Liddell, but when asked about a possible match with fellow Brazilian Anderson Silva, the long-time Pride champion said, "It's hard to go down and fight the champion. I need to fight other guys first. I trained with him a long time ago. We are friends, but a job is a job and friends are friends. In the future maybe it's possible to fight with him."
Now that would be a damn good challenger for Silva.
__________________
------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------
Dmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Banished
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Classified
Posts: 756
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 0
dustcloud97 is the Cruiserweight Championdustcloud97 is the Cruiserweight Championdustcloud97 is the Cruiserweight Championdustcloud97 is the Cruiserweight Champion
Yeah that would be an amazing fight to watch because it would be two of the best strikers in the world against each other.

Two things that I see working against this, in order of importance.

1)Dana White - We all know that Dana only likes guys that are marketable outside of Tito. An all-Brazilian main event isn't something that Dana wants to see because that would be admitting that American guys, and home grown UFC talent aren't good enough to rule that division. Of course nobody's stupid enough to think that any of the guys in the current TUF season will last even CLOSE to one round if they were stepping in against Anderson Silva...and if you do, you're on crack.

2)Dan Henderson - Hendo still has that one big knockout hanging over Wandy, and that would mean that Silva has to go through Hendo to get to his countryman. Now don't get me wrong, I like Silva's chances in any standup fight, but against Hendo, I don't know, because aside from Silva and a couple other guys I put Hendo on that level of guys that are a step above everybody else in the UFC as strikers go, which includes the likes of Chuck Liddell and Keith Jardine.
dustcloud97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
Protect This House
 
Twist of lEMOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Can Diego
Posts: 6,065
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 133
Twist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Shouter WC's Best Username Sour Lem0nz Sour Lem0nz 
Total Awards: 18

Isnt Anderson a former Chute Boxe fighter? if so I dont know if we would ever see a Silva vs Silva match up
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Twist of lEMOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
Warrior
Ancient and Loyal
 
Dmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, England
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 112
Dmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Thread Of The Month Best Thread Starter MMA Poster Of The Month MMA Poster Of The Month 
Total Awards: 5

Well that is just it, former chute box member, if they were both active it would be a no no.
__________________
------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------
Dmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Protect This House
 
Twist of lEMOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Can Diego
Posts: 6,065
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 133
Twist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Shouter WC's Best Username Sour Lem0nz Sour Lem0nz 
Total Awards: 18

Well Chute boxe is basicly a shell of its former self at the moment (wont stay that way for long, theyll get new up and comers), Wand is with Extreme Couture, Shogun is some other fight club and they'll never fight. Id be suprised if former Chute Boxe Vs former Chute Boxe ever happens to be honest, especially people who were in it for the PRIDE Dynasty.

If Wand goes to 185 it would end up like Rua and Wand in PRIDE with Anderson being the champ and Wand being the first person in line after he loses.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Twist of lEMOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
Warrior
Ancient and Loyal
 
Dmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, England
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 112
Dmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Thread Of The Month Best Thread Starter MMA Poster Of The Month MMA Poster Of The Month 
Total Awards: 5

Yeah but how smart would it be to go down to 185 being the next in line after a fighter that is showing no signs of losing any time soon?
__________________
------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------
Dmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
Protect This House
 
Twist of lEMOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Can Diego
Posts: 6,065
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 133
Twist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Shouter WC's Best Username Sour Lem0nz Sour Lem0nz 
Total Awards: 18

Wand wouldn't be a title contender right away either, but outside of Anderson 185 holds a lot of match ups that are more exciting that what what UFC offers Wand at 205. Franklin, Bisping, Wand/Henderson 3, and most likely Nathan Marquardt first up.

It wouldn't be the first time a fighter didn't want to fight the champion of there divsion, the PRIDE Dynasty made it impossible for Rua to fight for the LHW title until Henderson won it but then it was to late
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Twist of lEMOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
Warrior
Ancient and Loyal
 
Dmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, England
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 112
Dmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Thread Of The Month Best Thread Starter MMA Poster Of The Month MMA Poster Of The Month 
Total Awards: 5

Yeah you made that point but that is only one instance and Silva is not Shogun.

Silva wouldn't be a top contender straight away. that is easy to see but after one win I think he would be.
__________________
------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------
Dmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
Protect This House
 
Twist of lEMOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Can Diego
Posts: 6,065
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 133
Twist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of FamerTwist of lEMOn is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Shouter WC's Best Username Sour Lem0nz Sour Lem0nz 
Total Awards: 18

Eh, one win? Silva would have to dominate a top fighter like Franklin or Henderson to warrant one fight title, Dana has a history of giving a two fight path to the title shot for top fighters. Even after his boy Liddell lost to rampage he had to beat Jardine, then Beat Silva to get back to Rampage and obviously hes even farther away now. I don't think hes ever given someone coming off a losing streak like Silvas that big of a chance either.

Chute Boxe Vs Chute Boxe is still extremly rare because of the respect they have for each other, the only fight I can find thats ever featured two former Chute Boxe fighters is Werdum Vs Gonzaga.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Twist of lEMOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 06:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Warrior
Ancient and Loyal
 
Dmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, England
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 500
Rep Power: 112
Dmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of FamerDmac is a Hall Of Famer

Awards Showcase
Best Thread Of The Month Best Thread Starter MMA Poster Of The Month MMA Poster Of The Month 
Total Awards: 5

Franklin should really want another fight with Anderson, lets be honest and Hendo already lost quite easily also, it's time for new challenges for Anderson dude.
__________________
------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

------------------------------------------------
Dmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
mma, mma discussion board, mma forum, mma forums, pride, pride discussion board, pride forums, ufc, ufc discussion board, ufc forums

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:09 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Wrestling Clique Wrestling Forum





1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56