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The line has started to form behind Brock Lesnar and Fedor Emelianenko has joined it.
The world’s top-ranked heavyweight and his team of managers voiced their interest on Tuesday in having the touted Russian meet the newly crowned UFC heavyweight champion in “a co-promoted event between the UFC, M-1, and Affliction Entertainment,” according to a prepared press release.
Lesnar dropped perennial favorite Randy Couture at UFC 91 last Saturday three minutes into the second round with a glancing right hook to the living legend’s neck before pouncing on the six-time champion with a flurry of chopping hammerfists for the stoppage.
Couture (16-9) -- who campaigned for a fight with Emelianenko for nearly a year outside the UFC during a contract dispute -- was down on the scorecards, but gaining momentum after he cut Lesnar over his right eye with an angular punch just a moment before his opponent short-circuited his efforts.
The former WWE champion earned a title shot toting a humble 2-1 professional record, but Lesnar silenced numerous critics who condemned the matchup happening based on popularity more than merit.
“I think Lesnar fought a very smart fight,” Emelianenko told Sherdog.com on Tuesday. “It was very interesting to watch. I think one of his strengths was that -- I was impressed by his speed in the fight. I think just from watching the fight, each fighter was waiting for the other one to make a mistake and I think Lesnar was very fortunate to have caught Randy and prevail.”
Fedor's focus has shifted to UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar.
The reserved Emelianenko, who spoke through interpreter Steven Bash from a movie set in Thailand, kept any shortcomings he saw in the 2000 NCAA wrestling champion to himself.
“It was certainly a good start for him, but his successes and failures will depend on who’s in the ring with him,” said Emelianenko. “Whether I get a chance to fight Lesnar in the future or not, that fight will be about me taking advantage of those weaknesses. Any opponent that he has in the future, for them to prevail would be for them to take advantage and capitalize on mistakes that he makes. Like every fighter, he’s certainly prone to them and I see that.”
Up until September, Emelianenko and his representatives seemed just as dedicated to a bout with Couture as the 45-year-old champion was himself. Last August, the pair met in Los Angeles to cull their resources in the hopes of greenlighting the proposed mega-fight.
However, Emelianenko’s management was unfavorable to the exclusive contract offered the Russian fighter by Zuffa LLC., owners of the UFC, and requested the organization co-promote events with their M-1 Global brand. Zuffa declined the offer.
With a legal stalemate drawing out into 2009 over his own contract, the aging Couture decided to return to the UFC fold on Sept. 2 to face Lesnar instead.
Billed “the fight of the century” by many observers, Emelianenko-Couture seems unlikely now following Couture’s loss to Lesnar. And the uneasiness between Emelianenko’s team and the UFC seems to rage on.
“It is the position of M-1 that the UFC has adopted an anti-Fedor policy because multiple attempts to sign him have not been fruitful,” read the prepared release. “For a company that has tried to market itself as the number one promotion in the world, they are unable to accept the fact that the number one fighter in the world does not reside on its roster of contracted fighters.
“We believe that the UFC has determined that it's much more inexpensive for them to use their marketing resources to use smoke and mirrors to brand a fighter as the pound-for-pound best as opposed to actually paying the pound-for-pound best what he is truly worth on the open market.”
Like his managers, the 32-year-old star seems to have made an about-face regarding Couture, though Emelianenko’s next bout has already been decided.
Emelianenko (28-1) faces top-five heavyweight and former UFC champion Andrei Arlovski (13-5) at Affliction 2 “Day of Reckoning” on Jan. 24 in Anaheim, Calif. The event will be co-promoted by M-1.
“To tell you the truth, I wasn’t entirely excited in fighting Randy,” Emelianenko told Sherdog.com on Tuesday. “I have a great deal of respect and admiration for him. Getting in the ring with someone that, I myself, adore as a person and a fighter, I’m never as interested in getting in the ring with someone I have an emotional attachment to.”
While M-1 reps predicted Lesnar wouldn’t make it out of the first round with the revered Russian, Emelianenko refrained from naming which opponent posed his greatest challenge –- the experience-heavy Couture or the heavy-handed Lesnar.
“I just never think that way,” he said. “I never concentrate on that. My opponent is the opponent that signs the contract to fight me and ahead of time, looking down a list of fighters that are available and trying to figure who poses more of a danger by studying their games –- it’s something I just don’t concentrate on.”
The UFC and M-1’s fundamental disagreement over Emelianenko’s proposed contract terms is the most obvious hurdle standing in the way of this bout happening -- that’s if you don’t count the fact that Emelianenko has nearly ten times as many bouts as Lesnar. The UFC is not lacking for opponents to face the 6-foot-3, 280-pound champion as well.
Regardless, Emelianenko has picked Lesnar out of the heavyweight line-up over Couture.
“I would choose Lesnar, mainly for the reason I mentioned before,” said Emelianenko. “I’m very sympathetic to Randy. We hung out together. We got to know each other. I have a lot of warm feelings toward him. Based on that, if I had my choice without any outside forces involved, I would choose Lesnar."
Source: Sherdog
Kind of a long read, but it was interesting. Although I highly doubt Dana would do anything with the word "co" in it. UFC have to be the only ones who put on a mega show. I feel Fedor on the Randy situation, although it would probably be more fun of a fight for him, he wouldn't want it to become personal and lose his friendship...which wouldn't happen but meh. It will be interesting to see what Brock/Zuffa/Dana says about the offer.
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No matter how much truth there is behind the "friendship" thing between Fedor and Couture, Fedor's management knows that the bigger money fight is now with Lesnar. The hardcore fans might still want to see Fedor-Couture just for the historical importance, much like Liddell-Wanderlei. But Lesnar-Fedor offers more mainstream appeal now.
Won't matter, as the fight won't happen. Not unless Zuffa gets Fedor under contract and that doesn't look likely. Though 2009 could prove interesting in that regard, especially if Fedor tears through Arlovski in January.
As for Fedor-Couture, we all just know this would happen anyway (and yes that is Randy on the bottom)...
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It's funny that he's come out and said this when he damn well knows UFC isn't going to co-promote an event with anyone..
And for those who say 'well why not?' it's rather obvious.. It'd be a horrible business decision for UFC to ever promote fighters of another organization and give themselves competition..
Once there's competition, fighters become greedy son of a bitches.. and we end up with assholes who've never accomplished anything demanding million dollar contracts.
It's funny that he's come out and said this when he damn well knows UFC isn't going to co-promote an event with anyone..
And for those who say 'well why not?' it's rather obvious.. It'd be a horrible business decision for UFC to ever promote fighters of another organization and give themselves competition..
Once there's competition, fighters become greedy son of a bitches.. and we end up with assholes who've never accomplished anything demanding million dollar contracts.
Do you mean like Brock Lesnar's $250,000 per fight contract when he had one pro MMA fight?
Seriously, though, competition for the American MMA market would also mean that the UFC can't severely underpay lower level fighters, thereby allowing them to actually earn a living through just fighting. There are still quite a few fighters even at the UFC level who have to hold down jobs - some of them full-time jobs - to survive, rather than being able to afford to train full-time.
UFC and Dana White have gone on record as saying that they will NEVER co-promote an event. There isn't a single reason why they should..
Sure, some fighters are still 'underpaid', but how is it different than boxing?? The system in all sports or walks of life should be set up as you earn your money as you prove your worth..
Do we really need to see average fighters making over a million dollars per fight? It'd end up being no different than rookies in the NFL that are awarded $70M contracts with $20M guaranteed or a starting pitcher in baseball whose line is something like (14-12, 4.28) and are making over $10M a year..
Fans suffer. They suffer because ticket sales go up so that owners/promoters are able to pay these over payed stars and the quality of the competition/games dwindle because you don't have to do jack shit to make a buck..people get lazy..
UFC and Dana White have gone on record as saying that they will NEVER co-promote an event. There isn't a single reason why they should..
Sure, some fighters are still 'underpaid', but how is it different than boxing?? The system in all sports or walks of life should be set up as you earn your money as you prove your worth..
Do we really need to see average fighters making over a million dollars per fight? It'd end up being no different than rookies in the NFL that are awarded $70M contracts with $20M guaranteed or a starting pitcher in baseball whose line is something like (14-12, 4.28) and are making over $10M a year..
Fans suffer. They suffer because ticket sales go up so that owners/promoters are able to pay these over payed stars and the quality of the competition/games dwindle because you don't have to do jack shit to make a buck..people get lazy..
I'm not saying every fighter should be getting $200k per fight. I just wonder a bit when I see a guy on a pay per view who's base salary is $4,000. They obviously aren't the guys that people are buying the PPV to see, and they shouldn't be paid that way. But when a no-name promotion in a small city is paying fighters $2k per fight, it makes you think that those guys might be a bit underpaid.
If you want to grow a sport, allowing people to earn a decent living at it before they get to the very pinnacle is a good way to do it.
The reason UFC won't co-promote is simple. If their guy loses (and he would...) it would make their heavyweight division look like crap (which it is...).
UFC should do what it takes to get Fedor. I blame it on them for not doing it.
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The reason UFC won't co-promote is simple. If their guy loses (and he would...) it would make their heavyweight division look like crap (which it is...)
I don't believe that at all. Like I said, what's the benefit? Give me one reason why they should co-promote..
I don't believe that at all. Like I said, what's the benefit? Give me one reason why they should co-promote..
Because it would be giving the fans what they want and it would draw HUGE numbers.
HUGE!
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