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Old 07-07-2008, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

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Although Quinton Jackson (Pictures) lost his UFC light heavyweight title Saturday to Forrest Griffin (Pictures) in a grueling 25-minute bout, his camp is ready to keep fighting.

Jackson's coach, Juanito Ibarra, plans to protest the unanimous decision with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

"We got robbed," Ibarra told Sherdog.com Sunday afternoon. "We won the majority of the fight."

Judges Adalaide Byrd and Nelson Hamilton scored the bout 48-46 for Griffin, while Roy Silbert turned in a 49-46 tally for Griffin.

It's extremely unlikely that a protest would change the outcome of the fight. Ibarra isn't hopeful in that regard, but less than 24 hours after his fighter had lost in the UFC for the first time, the coach seemed determined to learn exactly how the fight was scored.

He was baffled that Byrd and Silbert gave Griffin a 10-9 advantage in the first round, during which Jackson dropped the challenger. In Ibarra's view, the knockdown warranted a 10-8 round in Jackson's favor. He believes Jackson won the third and fourth rounds on 10-9 scores, though he said Griffin deserved a 10-8 second round and a 10-9 fifth. That comes out to a 47-46 win for Jackson.

"You have to beat the champion," Ibarra asserted more than once.

Randy Couture (Pictures), a coach and training partner of Griffin, gave a slight edge to the new champion.

"I thought that it was a very, very close fight," Couture said. "I thought that it was three rounds to two [for Griffin]. I thought that Quinton did enough to win two of the rounds clearly. I thought they may have been able to give Quinton a 10-8 round in the first round with the knockdown and then the second round you could have given Forrest a 10-8 round.

"And it could have went the other way. If one or two rounds went the other way, it could have been three rounds to two for Quinton. It was that close."
I think its fair to say, even if Griffin won the fight in any fashion, Roy Silbert and Byrd need to be looked at. There judging, especially Silberts was terrible.
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

May as well look at Cecil Peoples to
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

at least forrest is innocent..
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

Forrest Griffin = The Patriots/Spurs of MMA

IN MY OPINION
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

hrmk, dun hate just cause he won
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

Forrest isn't nearly as gifted an athlete as the other top guys (GSP, Silva, BJ etc) but what he lacks he makes up for in heart and his insane work ethic.

The man has earned his belt.
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

*sigh*

This is really dissappointing.

Any respect I had for Rampage (which was pretty much non-existent) just went out the window.

Forrest won the fight.
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

In your eyes maybe but there's an argument for Rampage winning the fight, he won round 1 with the knockdown, lost 2, checked Forrest's kicks and avoided them and landed his punches round 3, round 4 all Rampage, and round 5 is a toss up.

If you give 5 to Rampage he wins if not it's a tie, because getting your kicks checked and taking some punches doesn't constitute a win even if you are the agressor.
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

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In your eyes maybe but there's an argument for Rampage winning the fight, he won round 1 with the knockdown, lost 2, checked Forrest's kicks and avoided them and landed his punches round 3, round 4 all Rampage, and round 5 is a toss up.

If you give 5 to Rampage he wins if not it's a tie, because getting your kicks checked and taking some punches doesn't constitute a win even if you are the agressor.
1 round - 10-9 rampage
2 round 10 -8 forrest
3 round 10-9 forrest
4 round 10-9 rampage
5 round 10-9 forrest

48 -46 Griffin

That is the way I scored it. Forrest was the agressor in Round 3 and while not doing much damage, he scored points with the legs kicks and because he was pushing the action. He had Rampage backing up and when Rampage did come with a flurry, Forrest exchanged with him and landed some good punches while retreating. I can't really see how anyone can argue that Rampage took Round 3.
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Re: Juanito Plans To Protest Jackson/Griffin Outcome to NSAC

Rampage checked almost all the leg kicks in round 3 they did no damage, and Rampage landed almost all of his shots when he flurried Forrest didn't he landed some but not nearly as many as Rampage.

Landing more shots>aggressor
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