Kimbo Slice

Twist of Lemon

Nick how does Backyard fighting = Next big thing in MMA?

lets have him fight somebody that knows a lick of BJJ before we get ahead of our selfs, and Hammer I'm more then willing to give Kimbo shot knowing Bas hes getting decent training. I'm just saying because of his background and who he will be facing in the EXC (Tank? Possibly a Freak Show Tourny?) he really hanicaps himself in not being able to show if he can do much. The fact that EXC has no Light Heavyweight Divsion of worth doesn't exactly help much.

He needs to face legit fighters to prove himself as a legit MMA Fighter, he won't get that in EXC which invests all its talent in Middle Weights and lower.

The Hammer

Agreed it will be hard to legitmize himself there regardless.

Dakstang

MMA Moderator

This little tidbit of info is about Eric "Red" Schafer.

Stop talkin' bout stayin' the course
You keep on beatin' that old dead horse
You know they lied about why we went to War
I can't take it no more

Twist of Lemon

They've always let "under card" fighters do small shows to keep busy or get confidence back because they don't mean much in the long term. Guys like Fedor or BJ Penn are money makers for Dana, I promise you that Dana doesn't give a damn what Eric Schafer or Seth Petruzelli does in smaller shows.

Dakstang

MMA Moderator

Chuck Liddell wasn't an undercard fighter when he went to PRIDE.

Stop talkin' bout stayin' the course
You keep on beatin' that old dead horse
You know they lied about why we went to War
I can't take it no more

Suffy

Plus most of the smaller fighters get something like 8 grand a fight. That's not alot if you only fight 4 times a year, so if Dana would be completely exclusive on all his fighters than most of them would be in the poor house, he has to let those lower guys fight elsewhere so they can make a living.

But you'll never see GSP, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, Big Nog, or Quinton fighting elsewhere.

Edit:

Also Dak when Chuck went to pride Dana wasn't president, there contracts were different so it doesn't matter. UFC wasn't as big as it is now.

Dakstang

MMA Moderator

Can someone provide some proof that Dana was not President of the UFC when Chuck fought in PRIDE?

I can find nothing about it.

Thanks

Stop talkin' bout stayin' the course
You keep on beatin' that old dead horse
You know they lied about why we went to War
I can't take it no more

Twist of Lemon

Pride was supposed to be a "Cross Promotion" with a company that was bigger then the UFC on the Global market

Sambo isn't bigger then the UFC...anywhere and that doesn't change the fact that Dana will let Eric Shafer and Seth take smaller fights, yet Hes been holding Arlovski's career under for almost a year now. Thats proof enough that he won't let big names fight smaller shows.

Simon

Founder/Admin

As someone who is starting to get interested in MMA, this freaking thread was all over the place. I think there are like 5 topics going on at one. lol

I dunno. I wouldnt be afraid to fight alot of people, but Kimbo would make me shit myself and cry home to mommy. That dude is scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaary. Fo SHO

Simon

Founder/Admin