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lets have him fight somebody that knows a lick ...
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Nick how does Backyard fighting = Next big thing in MMA?
lets have him fight somebody that knows a lick of BJJ before we get ahead of our selfs, and Hammer I'm more then willing to give Kimbo shot knowing Bas hes getting decent training. I'm just saying because of his background and who he will be facing in the EXC (Tank? Possibly a Freak Show Tourny?) he really hanicaps himself in not being able to show if he can do much. The fact that EXC has no Light Heavyweight Divsion of worth doesn't exactly help much.
He needs to face legit fighters to prove himself as a legit MMA Fighter, he won't get that in EXC which invests all its talent in Middle Weights and lower.
Nick how does Backyard fighting = Next big thing in MMA?
lets have him fight somebody that knows a lick of BJJ before we get ahead of our selfs, and Hammer I'm more then willing to give Kimbo shot knowing Bas hes getting decent training. I'm just saying because of his background and who he will be facing in the EXC (Tank? Possibly a Freak Show Tourny?) he really hanicaps himself in not being able to show if he can do much. The fact that EXC has no Light Heavyweight Divsion of worth doesn't exactly help much.
He needs to face legit fighters to prove himself as a legit MMA Fighter, he won't get that in EXC which invests all its talent in Middle Weights and lower.
Agreed it will be hard to legitmize himself there regardless.
This little tidbit of info is about Eric "Red" Schafer.
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Originally Posted by wicombatsports.com
Although the UFC can dismiss a fighter at any time, Schafer is under contract to fight three more times. However, as the UFC is now developing a reputation for, the organization is allowing Schafer to fight elsewhere to regain his confidence before entering the Octagon once again. “My biggest problem right now is my lack of ring experience,” says Schafer. “Despite competing for over ten years, I have only been seriously fighting for the last three. I need to stay busy doing fights and tournaments so that competing to the best of my ability comes easily.”
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That "couldn’t be done," and you’ll do it.
They've always let "under card" fighters do small shows to keep busy or get confidence back because they don't mean much in the long term. Guys like Fedor or BJ Penn are money makers for Dana, I promise you that Dana doesn't give a damn what Eric Schafer or Seth Petruzelli does in smaller shows.
They've always let "under card" fighters do small shows to keep busy or get confidence back because they don't mean much in the long term. Guys like Fedor or BJ Penn are money makers for Dana, I promise you that Dana doesn't give a damn what Eric Schafer or Seth Petruzelli does in smaller shows.
Chuck Liddell wasn't an undercard fighter when he went to PRIDE.
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There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
There are thousands to prophesy failure;
There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
The dangers that wait to assail you.
But just buckle it in with a bit of a grin,
Just take off your coat and go to it;
Just start to sing as you tackle the thing
That "couldn’t be done," and you’ll do it.
Plus most of the smaller fighters get something like 8 grand a fight. That's not alot if you only fight 4 times a year, so if Dana would be completely exclusive on all his fighters than most of them would be in the poor house, he has to let those lower guys fight elsewhere so they can make a living.
But you'll never see GSP, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, Big Nog, or Quinton fighting elsewhere.
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Also Dak when Chuck went to pride Dana wasn't president, there contracts were different so it doesn't matter. UFC wasn't as big as it is now.
Can someone provide some proof that Dana was not President of the UFC when Chuck fought in PRIDE?
I can find nothing about it.
Thanks
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There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
There are thousands to prophesy failure;
There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
The dangers that wait to assail you.
But just buckle it in with a bit of a grin,
Just take off your coat and go to it;
Just start to sing as you tackle the thing
That "couldn’t be done," and you’ll do it.
Pride was supposed to be a "Cross Promotion" with a company that was bigger then the UFC on the Global market
Sambo isn't bigger then the UFC...anywhere and that doesn't change the fact that Dana will let Eric Shafer and Seth take smaller fights, yet Hes been holding Arlovski's career under for almost a year now. Thats proof enough that he won't let big names fight smaller shows.
As someone who is starting to get interested in MMA, this freaking thread was all over the place. I think there are like 5 topics going on at one. lol
I dunno. I wouldnt be afraid to fight alot of people, but Kimbo would make me shit myself and cry home to mommy. That dude is scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaary. Fo SHO
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