Is the Rua/Machida decision the biggest screw job in mainstream MMA history

King TE · 10-27-2009, 12:35 AM

Cecil Peoples is a complete joke. So Shogun constantly keeping Machida in check and attacking every time Machida did move forward = Machida winning octagon control? That right there is proof he has no business being a MMA judge. 'And apparently defending takedowns warrants as better grappling than getting pinned up against the cage in a clinch and having your legs kneed to hell. 'And only punches to the head really count in a fight apparently. This guy should of never even made a statement because now there's quotable statements from his own mouth that prove he has no place sitting next to an octagon and scoring fights. Since only punches matter to him he should just start judging boxing. Brutal body and leg kicks that take away all your mobility and explosion is a way to end a fight dipshit. Can't wait 'till someone writes Mixed Martial Arts Judging For Dummies so this guy can buy a copy.

Deven · 10-27-2009, 04:45 AM

I couldnt believe that machida won...evrybody i was with was shocked also..shogun won that fight to me...for the judges to say it was unanimous win for machida is crazy..if anything it should of been split

Dmac · 10-27-2009, 02:34 PM

I just like how it isn't getting swept under the rug like it never happened tbh.

Dana knows that Shogun was screwed and he knew straight away if you saw him go up to him straight aftet the fight and appear to console him. The downside is, that Machida has at least 4 months to use the footage from that fight to try and ensure that the next fight doesn't happen like that one did. Where as I don't see what Shogun could improve on from that fight, he did what he needed to do and clearly even though no officially won the fight.

King TE · 10-27-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmac
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I just like how it isn't getting swept under the rug like it never happened tbh.

Dana knows that Shogun was screwed and he knew straight away if you saw him go up to him straight aftet the fight and appear to console him. The downside is, that Machida has at least 4 months to use the footage from that fight to try and ensure that the next fight doesn't happen like that one did. Where as I don't see what Shogun could improve on from that fight, he did what he needed to do and clearly even though no officially won the fight.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It's bullshit because yeah, Shogun may get a rematch but it's a handicap for him because his strategy worked. Machida is the one who gets to go back to the tapes and look at what he did wrong and adjust his game plan. Shogun won the fight and now he's gotta try and predict what Machida will come up with in his next fight. At least we know who has the better cardio now. I told everyone it was only because of the knee injuries.

Dmac · 10-27-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMAMania

Dear haters: Watch UFC 104 without audio and you might see a different fight …

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

… Yours truly, Lyoto Machida.

“I thought it was a very even and tough fight. I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds. The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight. Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior. I had three or four chances to finish the fight, and he never put me in danger. I didn’t get (dazed) at any moment of the fight, but I put him in danger three or four times. He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn’t knock me out with that. This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”

Reigning light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida talks to Sherdog.com about his controversial unanimous decision win over challenger Mauricio Rua at UFC 104 last Saturday night in Los Angeles. “Shogun” appeared to be getting the better of the exchanges in their five round title fight but “The Dragon” blames biased American commentators for selling Rua’s offense as more than it actually was. Is it possible that a majority of fans were hypnotized by the pro-Rua ramblings of Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg? Or has Machida been looking at the replay through urine-colored glasses? Where do you stand, Maniacs?

Haha wow...

Suffy · 10-27-2009, 10:08 PM

Then why is it that the 15 000 at the Staples center started out by chanting MACHIDA MACHIDA but by the 3rd round that changed to Shogun Shogun...pretty sure they can't hear Rogan and Goldie.

Bigpapa42 · 10-27-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suffy
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Then why is it that the 15 000 at the Staples center started out by chanting MACHIDA MACHIDA but by the 3rd round that changed to Shogun Shogun...pretty sure they can't hear Rogan and Goldie.

The fans the booed massively at the announcement also were swayed by the commentating they couldn't hear. So was Machida himself, who looked pretty resigned to defeat before they announced the "decision".

Kimura · 10-27-2009, 10:18 PM

I rewatched the fight and that decision was totally bs. Shogun clearly won all 5 rounds. Those leg kicks were BRUTAL. Machida didnt do anything in the fourth round and in the fifth it seemed he was so demoralized that he was just going through the motions. After the final bell, Machida KNEW he had lost the fight.

Cecil People's comments should be reviewed and he should never be allowed to judge a fight ever again. Those comments just prove, he knows nothing about MMA. Hamilton should also never be allowed to judge again... giving the 4th round to Machida is mind boggling.

Bigpapa42 · 10-27-2009, 10:24 PM

When one of People's justifications is that Machida was doing more damage through those first three rounds, but Machida was obviously slowing down by the third round and very clearly sustained signficiant damage by the fourth, you know he's throwing around a lot of bullshit.

King TE · 10-27-2009, 10:34 PM

This whole thing is just getting ridiculous. I have re watched the fight several times, once with the sound off and once ignoring the commentators and simply focusing on Machida's strategy and what he was doing to win the fight. After all that, I could understand a 48-47 win for Shogun but that's as far as I could stretch it. Shogun CLEARLY won the last three rounds. Machida's little "flurry" at the end of round 3 where he landed about 3 or 4 blows and then received a huge right hand from Shogun doesn't overcome the fact he got OWNED by Shogun all of round 3. I love how Peoples and Machida are trying to spin the decision and making themselves look stupid. When that buzzer sounds at the end of a fight, BOTH fighters know who REALLY won that fight. It showed on Shogun's and Machida's faces that Shogun was the winner.