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Old 08-10-2009, 01:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

Its funny that having the best middleweight move from a decently deep weight class to the deepest class in the UFC might be a good thing.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

I want GSP/Silva. And I want it now.

I can see why this would be good, buit it would be good for a very short time. Silva seems to want to box and this (as has been said) is a very good way to get out of the fact he's holidng the Title and can't really leave until he's lost/dropped it. He drops the belt, has one fight at LHW and then fucks off. Sorted for him, and Dana looks like a chump. Well done there.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

I think Silva has 4 fights left on his contract and Dana will more than likely do his usual stall tactics. Either sign a new contract or not fight for a year. He can stall on the last fight for up to a year.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

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In flattening Forrest Griffin Saturday, Anderson Silva needed only 3:23 to restore a reputation that was in considerable danger of collapsing. In each of his last two fights -- against Thales Leites and Patrick Cote -- Silva delivered an interpretive dance of “The English Patient” when audiences were expecting “Rambo,” fighting conservatively and disinterested in pushing his opponents when they shut down mentally.

Had he done that a third time, in a fight town as rabid as Philadelphia, fire extinguishers probably would’ve gotten involved.

Instead, he looked every bit the pound-for-pound king that employer Dana White insists he is. Slipping Griffin’s heavy (and slow) punches with ease, he countered beautifully, falling into a rhythm of evasion and attack that was like watching someone play an instrument. Where many fights become tumbling piles of arms and legs, this was beautifully efficient, truncated violence.

It was clean.

Silva’s timing couldn’t have been better, literally or figuratively: Just weeks after losing Fedor Emelianenko to Strikeforce -- which White, in an apparent audition for Mad magazine, has dubbed “Strikefarce” -- the UFC could’ve used some fresh evidence that they have the more active and talented all-time great in their fold. And they got it.

His talent no longer debatable, discussion now turns to what you do with someone this good that satisfies both business sense and fan expectations.

The options:

1. Keep Silva at 185 pounds. Talent exists that would satisfy his contractual obligations: Demian Maia, Yushin Okami, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Wanderlei Silva, Vitor Belfort.

The problem is that no one has really earned a title shot beyond Dan Henderson and possibly Nate Marquardt (who fights Maia on Aug. 29). If Silva’s title defenses are now sinking into redundancy, it’s time to reconsider his place there.

2. The road show: Random bouts that would attract money and crowds without making much contextual sense. Chief among these is the idea of opposing Georges St. Pierre in a meeting between two “pound-for-pound” greats that would have the adverse side effect of sacrificing one to build on the legacy of the other.

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3. A permanent move to 205 pounds: According to Yahoo’s Dan Wetzel, it’s a proposal already under consideration by Silva, manager Ed Soares and White. Considering that Silva is a large middleweight who retains his speed in the heavier class, it doesn’t appear to be at all unreasonable -- save for his disinterest in fighting friend and training partner Lyoto Machida. Considering Machida holds the title, it’s a little like volunteering to climb Everest but insisting you’ll stop just short of the peak. What’s the point?

Whatever Silva does, it should be in the pursuit of something -- not some aimless, nomadic expedition through multiple weight classes, taking random fights whenever the UFC is in need of a one-off headliner. If he agrees to compete at 205 pounds, then that should be at the cost of his middleweight title and with the understanding he might potentially earn the right to face Machida. (Sadly, life gets a lot easier for everyone if Mauricio Rua happens to defeat Lyoto on Oct. 24.)

If he remains at 185, it should be with the blueprint that he could conceivably air out the entire division -- not only Maia and Okami, but Cung Le and Gegard Mousasi, if those fighters become available.

There will probably be sporadic discussion of Silva facing heavyweights. (He’s a solid 220 when not dieting down.) That’s all it should be -- talk. There might’ve been some rational thinking in Silva facing a smaller heavyweight champion like Randy Couture, but expecting him to be competitive with the current era of comic-book character heavyweights who have to cut to make 265 is a little sadistic.

There is value in Silva vacating his middleweight belt: With three more fights on his contract, not owning a title would free him at its conclusion, at which point he’d probably indulge in the desire to fight Roy Jones Jr. in boxing.

Those are all just fights, though. There’s a lot you can do with the best fighter in the world: highlight-reel specials, sparring sessions with celebrities, tournament-style eliminations to decide his next contender and on and on. Silva is the springboard for a lot of inventive business: It’s up to the UFC to use its imagination.

As for the inevitable press sparring over their marquee athlete and Strikeforce’s: Backed by record pay-per-view subscribers and hours of basic cable television, White can anoint whomever he pleases with the “best ever” title, and it’s likely to be digested without complication by the masses. (Emelianenko exists in a bit of a vacuum, at least until CBS enters the picture.) Footage like the Griffin knockout makes it real easy.

There will never be an absolute answer as to who’s the better fighter, Emelianenko or Anderson Silva. But the UFC’s machine guarantees that fewer and fewer people will even bother asking the question.
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

Where are people getting these fight numbers from? Seriously. I remember after the Cote fight, when Silva announced his plans to retire from MMA when his contract was up, they stated in the article he had three fight left. If I'm counting correctly, that made last night his last fight. Where are people getting that he still has three or four more fight left?
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

Not sure but even his manager said he will be retiring in 2010 so he will be fighting at LEAST 3 more times.
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Re: Silva to Drop Title? *Spoilers*

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Hot on the heels of reports that Anderson Silva had acquired a permanent taste for the 205-pound division, it appears that the most dominant middleweight champion in UFC history isn’t quite ready to relinquish his throne at 185.

A recent column by Yahoo! Sports writer Dan Wetzel stated that Silva’s manager, Ed Soares, told UFC President Dana White that his client was willing to make the move to light heavyweight permanent, even if it meant dropping his middleweight belt in the process.

Not so Soares told MMAWeekly.com, saying he’s not sure where that information was drawn from.

“It’s not true. I never said that to Dana,” stated the Brazilian’s chief negotiator. “I never said he would move up and relinquish the title. I have said to Dana that he’d like to fight again at 205 (but not permanently).”

After UFC 101, where Silva dismantled Forrest Griffin at 205, White indicated that Silva’s next bout would likely be a drop back down to 185 to defend his belt against Dan Henderson. That would be a rematch of their first bout of a year-and-a-half ago, when Silva won with a decisive second round submission.

Soares isn’t so sure that Henderson is the person that deserves the next middleweight title shot.

Since losing to Silva at UFC 82, Henderson has three straight victories: a unanimous decision over Rousimar Palhares at 185, a split decision win over Rich Franklin at light heavyweight, and a middleweight knockout victory over Michael Bisping.

“Does that really make him a number one contender? I feel a true number one opponent (at 185) would be if Henderson fought the winner of Nate Marquardt and Damian Maia,” Soares told MMAWeekly.com. “That would produce a true number one contender... we could take another fight at 205 or a catchweight fight (in the meantime).”

As for his client’s future, nothing has changed.

“I’ve always said the same thing, he wants the biggest fights possible, whether it’s at 205 or 185.”
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