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UFC, PRIDE and Strikeforce veteran – and co-host of MMAjunkie.com Radio – Frank Trigg (19-6) is currently on a four-fight win streak, yet he doesn't know where or when his next bout will take place.
But on Wednesday's edition of MMAjunkie.com Radio Trigg identified one opponent he believes would be easy prey: Strikeforce middleweight Frank Shamrock (23-10-2).
"They can have me fight him any time they want up there," Trigg said. "Put it back at 180 (pounds) again, and I'll put him into retirement. It's not that difficult. Frank Shamrock's only got like two or three fights left in his life."
Trigg fought once for the California-based organization, defeating Falaniko Vitale in October 2008. The 36-year-old said he would love the opportunity to return to the organization in a chance to prove just how far Shamrock has fallen in recent defeats to Nick Diaz and Cung Le.
"How much [expletive] can you talk to Frank Shamrock?" Trigg asked. "He's not that good. The sport has passed him by.
"Do you really want to be seen training on Lamaze balls? Is that really what you want to do? That's what he does. Half of his techniques are done on Lamaze balls. I'm like, 'OK. That's really interesting. That's great. Who's teaching you your takedown defense?'"
Trigg questioned Shamrock's commitment to preparation for his April 11 main event with Diaz at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif.
"You live in [expletive] San Jose," Trigg said. "There's like 75 great wrestlers that live right down the street from you. You don't train with any of them? That doesn't make any sense to me.
"You're a great striker, you're incredibly athletic, you have a great ability to talk before the fights, you've got a great ability to sell the fight. But then you're striking hasn't changed. Your ability, your flexibility, your ability to hit your punches hasn't changed. You haven't learned – knowing full well against a guy who's going to do takedowns – how to stop a takedown and how to keep it on your feet where you would have had a shot to win.
"But then, you're on your feet and you got out-punched by a jiu-jitsu guy. It doesn't make any sense."
While Trigg's career has been filled with bouts against the world's top competitors, he last fought in a unanimous-decision win against an unheralded Danny Babcock. While the win certainly wasn't a career-builder, Trigg insists Shamrock's current 1-3 streak proves he's no longer relevant.
"The sport's just passed [Shamrock] by," Trigg said. "It's the same thing I said to Ken (Shamrock). It's the same thing I said to Mark Coleman. It's the same thing I said to Tito Ortiz: The sport has passed you by.
"You haven't adjusted. You haven't learned. You haven't spent the time being in the academy every day trying to learn. You're out there [expletive] around doing other stuff when you're not training. It's not smart anymore for this sport.
"You don't think for a minute I'm not training every day now? And I've got nothing going on. I have nothing coming up. I am basically a stay-at-home dad right now. That's what I am right now. But I have to train every day. Why? Because I've got to keep improving my speed. I have to keep improving my flexibility."
Trigg said he was involved in recent negotiations with World Victory Road's Sengoku, where he fought in 2007, but was currently unaware of when he would fight again.
Shamrock, a San Jose, Calif., resident, has main-evented in Strikeforce's top-three grossing cards, all held at the HP Pavilion. Shamrock lost two of the three contests, including a second-round TKO defeat at the hands of Diaz.
He is on a 4 fight win streak but over who? Nobodies, and it has all gone to his head.
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Trigg and Shamrock are similar in that they both understand the value of self-promotion and do it pretty well. Difference is that Shamrock is still a pretty good fighter.
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Well Trigg obviously isn't a bad fighter on a four fight winning streak, but lets look who he has beaten...
Edwin Dewees, a guy released by the UFC because he wasn't good enough, a guy that was on a two fight losing steak going into his fight with Trigg and a guy that has now lost 5 fight out of 6.
Makoto Takimoto, a fighter that has a record of 4-5-0, meaning that he has lost more fights in his career than he has actually won, which really is enough said.
Falaniko Vitale, a guy with quite a decent record of 26-9-0, but always loses to known names, he has lost to Jason Miller, Jeremy Horn and Robbie Lawler twice.
Danny Babcock, besides the hilarious name, he has only been a pro since 2007 so is basically a rookie.
The only win he can be even remotely proud of is Vitale because of the fact that he does in fact hold a decision win of Okami, even though that was over 5 years ago.
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Trigg is by no means terrible at this point. Like you noted, Dmac, he hasn't beat anyone of note on that wins streak. Not that Shamrock has been taking down the biggest names at this point, but he is getting in there against some good fighters, win or lose.
I think that if they were both signed to the UFC tomorrow (won't happen, but...), Shamrock would be near the top of the 185 class. Below the elite, but above the average. Trigg would likely be moreso of a mid-level guy in the weight class - much as he was in his UFC run.
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Well Trigg's last loss was at the hands of Lawler, I'm guessing that Trigg's next opponent will be a guy of name value but if so I can't see him winning it. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
There is no saying that we wont actually see Trigg vs Shamrock now.
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Trigg never impressed me. He couldn't make it above gate keeper in any major org now. His wrestling may be enough to hold down Frank for 3 rounds, but Shamrock is a better striker and has good submission skills.
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My lil bro's 1st amateur MMA fight
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