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I think from a storyline standpoint it is a good way to be able to put the Wolves over without having Larry Sweeney interject himself into the match with all the lumberjacks around. Plus the strap match stipulation should allow for some interesting action.
ROH World Title Match
Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries
Bryan Danielson vs. Jerry Lynn
Tyler Black vs. Jimmy Jacobs
Lumberjack Strap Match
Roderick Strong & Erick Stevens vs. Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards
Four Corner Survival
The Necro Butcher vs. Delirious vs. Damien Wayne vs. Sean Denny
Rhett Titus vs. Brent Albright
Jay Briscoe vs. Chris Escobar
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The results the last night's show makes me really question the outcome of these matches. Black scored his biggest victory today while Jacobs defeated Danielson for the second time. Now, with Black defeating Nigel, it would seem as if he's the uncrown champion. However, if Aries is able to shock everyone and win the title off of Nigel, it'll be a great way to continue the Black/Aries feud. Meanwhile, let's say Jacobs scores once again another win, this time over Black, ROH would have a very easy 4 way battle over the ROH title with Aries, Black, Jacobs and Nigel.
The only problem is Jerry Lynn. I firmly believe he will beat Danielson on his way to challenge the champion again. But if Nigel isn't the champion, would Lynn still his main event feud?
Either way, tonight looks like a pretty interesting night of ROH action.
a. Alex Payne & Red Ninja d. Ernie Osiris & "Beautiful" Bobby Shields - Seagull got there after the pre-show, so he got this result from someone near by, hence the "someone else".
b. Andy "Right Leg" Ridge vs. Brandon Day - Unsure of winner
c. Bobby Dempsey vs. Orange Cassidy - Unsure of winner, though one would think Dempsey.
MAIN SHOW
1. Brent Albright d. Rhett Titus - Albright wins with the half nelson suples
2. Delirious d. The Necro Butcher, Damien Wayne, & Sean Denny in a Four Corner Survival - Delirious wins with the Shadows over Hell on Sean Denny
Kyle Durden is now in the ring to interview Austin Aries. Aries says the fans owe him an apology for turning their backs on him. He had hoped he'd have some closure after making Jacobs say I Quit, but that didn't come. Says that the crowd always cheered no matter who was being hit with chairs. Says that Tyler Black is nothing more than the flavor of the month, and that the fans will turn on Black just like they turned on him. He says he's done wrestling for us, for the company, for DVD sales, for snowflakes. He's now only wrestling for himself. He says he is NOT going to cash in his title shot at a "B Show" like tonight. He then knocks out Kyle Durden. Tyler Black comes out and says if Aries doesn't want the title shot, he'll take it. Black tries to attack Aries, but Jacobs jumps Black from behind. Jay Briscoe comes out to make the save...and challenges Aries and Jacobs to a three way match, which is on now. Aries and Jacobs seem to be working together...
3. Jay Briscoe d. Austin Aries & Jimmy Jacobs in a 3 Way Match - Jay wins with a roll up on Jacobs after he makes Jacobs accidently hit Aries with the spear. Jacobs and Aries never really came to blows during the match, but were not "together" either. They pushed each other back and forth, but Seagull described it as similar to the Dudley's pushing each other, psyching each other up. After the match, Jacobs spits his gum at Aries, who picks it up off the ground and chews it.
Nigel McGuinness vs. Tyler Black for the ROH World Title is official for tonight.
Nana comes out and takes his belt off, offering to be a lumberjack! He's escorted out, the Lumberjack Strap Match is up next!
4. Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards d. Roderick Strong & Erik Stevens in a Lumberjack Strap Match - Edwards hit Stevens with a chair behind the refs back. Lumberjacks went after everyone, no heel or face distinguished in that.
-INTERMISSION-
Ernie Osiris is out walking through the crowd, asking for money, during intermission.
Crowd is estimated in the 600 range. He said it isn't as packed as last time in Edison.
5. Grizzly Redwood vs. Chris Escobar went to a No Contest - Bison Smith came in and destroyed them both.
6. Jerry Lynn d. Bryan Danielson - Lynn wins cleanly with the Cradle Piledriver! After the match Danielson teases not shaking hands, but eventually does.
During the match, Nigel tried to walk out of the match, Danielson came out and stopped him and said he'd kill him where they stood...match continues!
Later on...(from another source) Jacobs attacked Tyler, Lynn came out and attacked Nigel, then Aries, Strong, Stevens, Albright, American Wolves, and Jay Briscoe were all out brawling. Danielson came out and ordered everyone to the back saying that the match was undecided, and for the World Title. Jacobs atacked Danielson, and the big brawl started again. Jay and Albright both did ???? off the top rope. Danielson did a dive into the crowd and the brawl moved into the crowd. Everyone brawled to the back. Sinclair and Cary conferred...and the match MUST CONTINUE!
After all that...
7. Nigel McGuinness and Tyler Black go to a time limit draw! - Tyler hit the superkick while Nigel was on his knee just like last night, and as he was crawling over for the pin, the bell rang for the time limit. Seagull timed it and said it was only about 45 minutes...so could be a 45 minute time limit. Tyler asked for five more minutes, Nigel said no way, and headed to the back, ending the show!
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Damn, it looked like we were so close to a new champion. This is possibly the most exciting/unpredictable time for the ROH title since late 2004. There's so many guys I could see being the one to beat Nigel.
The main event was the most overbooked nonsense I've seen in ROH in years.
I, along with what seemed to be the majority of the crowd, left disappointed.
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Originally Posted by Chris Jericho
Dammit if Gabe Sopolsky wasn't impressed, then what chance does the WWE have to survive even one more day??? Breadline, here I come...
ROH fans are fucking tools. I hope they went home and cried while masturbating to Gabe's shoot interview.
This looks like a good show, anyone who bitches about a run-in isn't a professional wrestling fan. Count outs, run-ins, disqualifications, and all of that stuff has always been a part of wrestling. Those whiny smark homos who think a show is only good if every match is "5 stars" and has 50 near falls can suck Adam Pearce's dick.
ROH has made a name out for themselves for being the company that gives the fans hard fought main events that we don't need to worry about shitty interference in every match. So I really don't see what's so bad about the finish tonight. It's not a common thing and it's booked to make it more exciting then other main events.
Either way, Tyler Black has proven to be the future of ROH this weekend. Two back to back matches with the champ and neither time could Nigel defeat him. I can't wait to see their weekend matches once they come out to DVD.
ROH has made a name out for themselves for being the company that gives the fans hard fought main events that we don't need to worry about shitty interference in every match. So I really don't see what's so bad about the finish tonight. It's not a common thing and it's booked to make it more exciting then other main events.
Fuck that, I want to see Tyler Black kick out of 50 lariats so I can go "1...2....OH!" every time. And there needs to be at least one fighting spirit spot for a match to be good. Fuck interesting storylines. Where's my SNOWFLAKES~! calculator so I can figure out if I enjoyed it or not.