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Old 08-15-2009, 04:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If ROH Went Under...

This is not a thread to debate how much trouble ROH is in money wise. Lets just assume for the sake of this thread that ROH doesn't head into the new decade and dies this year. How much of an impact would it have on pro wrestling in America? The last time a major US indy company died was ECW in 2001. Coupled with the fact that WCW would be bought out a couple months later, it sent shock waves through pro wrestling and wrestling has yet to fully recover all these years later.

Since being founded in 2002, ROH has groomed many stars of the future. Would wrestlers like Eddie Guerrero, Paul London, Brian Kendrick, CM Punk, Low-Ki, Joey Matthews, Mickie James and others even get a chance with the company? While there are other indy companies surviving, I don't believe any of them can really support being the biggest indy company like ROH has been. PWG was lucky to even stay alive while CHIKARA is still fairly small.

So if ROH would go under, how big of an impact would it have?
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Dare I say none? It would probably just make one of the other brand name indy feds slightly more popular.
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

I'd be curious as to what genie granted Ian Rotten and John Zandig their promotions still alive.

I'd say it'd have a lot more impact than just "none". It would mean the likes of Bryan Danielson, who may not have anything left to accomplish on the indies, finally accepting a spot in the WWE. I'm sure I've heard of Nigel, Roderick and definitely Claudio expressing interest in the past.

It would certainly benefit the rest of the indy scene, as someone has to step up to the #1 spot, probably PWG at the moment. Them, CHIKARA and any other feds would have some new talent to book more often than usual.

It's early in the morning and I can't think of much yet, but I'll be coming back to this.
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Danielson has expessed an intrest in MMA so if ROH were to go under I think he would give that a go first. I could see a small group of maybe four or five ROH regulars going to WWE and a second group going to TNA (TNA have apparently been in contact with Claudio over the past year). The rest (Which would be the majority) would end up in random Indy promotions or Japan/Mexico. TNA, PWG etc would benfit from not having to wonder if ROH are going to grow bigger and (for TNA) close the gap or (for PWG) open the gap further. For some reason, I doubt WWE would even notice.

It would change the wrestling landscape, but I dont think it would change it much, If they were a bigger company, then it would obviously have a bigger effect.
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Danielson was training in muy thai and has problems with his equalibrium due to his eye injury, so he's have to be an idiot to go into MMA.

I think for the workers it would be really bad. I imagine for most of the guys ROH is their main source of income and they are the highest paying indy fed. Guys aren't going to be able to get by working a PWG show every month. I could see a few just leaving the business if it were to happen. I think the talent would just split up, PWG, Chikara and even CZW would grow more... and my interest in the scene would fall more than it already has >_>
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

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I think for the workers it would be really bad. I imagine for most of the guys ROH is their main source of income and they are the highest paying indy fed. Guys aren't going to be able to get by working a PWG show every month. I could see a few just leaving the business if it were to happen. I think the talent would just split up, PWG, Chikara and even CZW would grow more... and my interest in the scene would fall more than it already has >_>
This is the main thing that caused me to create this thread. I look at someone like Roderick Strong who works tons of different promotions. It seems as if some need to work as many places as possible to make enough income to be a full time pro wrestler. Without having their main source of their money, some may just have to give up their wrestling dreams for a bit. Who knows, that guy could have been the next CM Punk or Evan Bourne.
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Steve, maybe you can answer this for me, but I was just lurking and I saw your post. What happened to his eye and whats an equalibrium?
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

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Steve, maybe you can answer this for me, but I was just lurking and I saw your post. What happened to his eye and whats an equalibrium?
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In a match with Morishima back at Manhattan Mayhem II (2007), Morishima legit injured Dragon's eye. Danielson had to be out for a little while missing PWG's BOLA. An equilibrium is just what helps you keep your balance.
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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Back in 2007 Morishima injured his eye in a match, it lead an angle where Danielson eventually got revenge on Morishima... it's arguably the biggest fued in ROH history....


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Re: If ROH Went Under...

Interesting question...

I think the E potentially benefits a bit, in that it could possibly get Danielson and a few others. Now, whether the E uses them and they actually succeed is another question entirely...

TNA could benefit similarly, I suppose. The bigger windfall goes to the smaller indies, who could possibly land guys they can't right now - though how they would pay them is a big question.

Would Japanese promotions benefit? Could some talent that comes over to tour right now move there on a more permanent basis? Would the promotions want that?
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