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Old 12-26-2008, 12:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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KTK's Review Thread

Basically, between WWE 24-7, DVDs, PPVs, etc. I watch a shit load of wrestling. So I figured, why not give my thoughts on these shows/matches for all of you to read? More often than not I will give star ratings along with a short summary but we'll see what I do in the future. So whether it's ROH, WWE, WCW, ECW, TNA, random shows, random matches, etc. I'll try to give most of my reviews in this thread. Consider this a less epic combination of Ask Jim and Marketh Reviews ROH.

And no, not every show will get "AWESOME SHOW! *****" no matter how optimistic I am.

and the first review is... WWE 24-7 Presents: Tribute To The Troops 2007!

Now I can't really review a show like this but I figured I'd give my thoughts on the matches since I'm watching it now. Personally I love the concept of Tribute to the Troops, more so as it is now as a bonus hour of wrestling than a two hour show in place of RAW. Also I like how although it still has the big time WWE feel, the Tribute to the Troops feel a little more underground/indy than the normal RAWs and Smackdowns. Kinda like ECW should've stayed.

The show will begin with Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton. Jericho returned a month ago and lost to Orton (well technically won via DQ) at Armageddon and this is the rematch. Burn In My Light did not fit Orton nearly as well as his current theme. Now I love epic heel Jericho as much as anyone else, but I still miss the "charismatic" "exciting" Jericho. He may not have been quite as epic as his 2000-2001 face run, but I think it was still underrated and I'd like to see him be face again before he retires for good. The match begins slow with the fans loving Jericho and Orton giving his psychotic squints. Despite Jericho being the face and Orton being the big heel their's still a faint RKO chant. I love when Orton stands in the middle of the ring over his opponent's hurt body and taunts. Not done enough. Jericho although still showing a little ring rust doing some old school moves and then does the springboard crossbody (ala his dropkick to someone on the apron). Thus far it's been a pretty solid TV match but nothing special. Jericho takes a soldier's camera and takes a picture of the fallen RKO, random but eh, cool I guess.

Orton later on turns the tides and then hits the COD (Concussion on Delivery) ropebound DDT and then we go to commercial. When we get back Jericho begins fighting back only to get a big knee to the mid-section. Orton misses a big knee drop (after pulling down his knee pad) and Jericho begins getting the upper hand with chops only to walk into the sleeper. A Y2J chant starts and Orton demands the fans shut up, only for the fans to start a "You Suck" chant in return. Again, simple heel moves that people don't do enough. Yell at the fans and demand them to be quiet when they boo to get even more heat. Seems simple enough to me.

Some good exchanges between the two later on including many signature moves from both men. Lionsault leads to a two and a half but after a thumb to the eye and Orton's neckbreaker/backbreaker Orton is in control once again in the match. Stalking Y2J for the RKO he jumps up but Jericho pushes him away and drops him for the Walls of Jericho. Suddenly JBL's music plays and comes down talking on the mic to piss Jericho off. He gets on the apron as Orton refuses to tap and then gets in the ring only for the bell to sound as Jericho charges. Jericho wins via DQ once again. He hits JBL turns around and receives an RKO for his trouble. After he leaves JBL hits the Clothesline from Hell gaining even more heat.

All in all I'd call it a good TV match and worthy of a **3/4-*** rating. Did what it needed to though it wasn't particularly impressive. Fun for sure but not as good as their Armageddon match.

Jeff Hardy vs. Carlito is up next, and Jeff has the face paint already. A preview for the future? Jeff was IC champ here and was already number one contender for the WWE gold for the upcoming Royal Rumble. This was around when Carlito cut his hair so it was short and shitty looking opposed to huge and epic >.>. Cole comments on the Carlito/Santino team recently starting up, boy they lasted long! Fans are completely behind Hardy, in the shocker of the night
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. Jeff gets the upper hand early on, going as far as to hitting a variaiton of the judo flip and also hitting a weird spinebuster looking flapjack. Everything Carlito attempts is blocked by Hardy who is a beast at this time. Carlito finally gets the upper hand and irish whips Jeff who rolls out of the ring and high fives the audience. Carlito follows but gets in an argument with the troops and Jeff once again gains control.

Jeff attempts his corner dropkick but Carlito slides out of the way and finally we may be able to see Carlito get some offense in! This must have been the time where he had heat and was reportedly less motivated as his in ring work is pretty dull and every time he gains control it shifts back for Hardy quickly, as proven by Jeff quickly hitting the Whisper in the Wind. Jeff attempts the Twist of Fate but Carlito hits the lungblower (FTW move) but only gets the near fall. He asks for his apple to ultimately embarrass Jeff, but Jeff is ready and kicks him in the gut, hits a jawbreaker, the twist of fate, and wins with the Swanton.

A decent match for sure. Not as good as Jericho vs. Orton but still good enough for me. Probably **1/4 or so.

Vince comes out to a mixed but mostly cheered reaction. He seems to be playing the Sunny role in 1997 and Torrie Wilson's role at one point, hyping up a random match by being the ring announcer.

Kelly Kelly and Layla vs. Mickie James and Maria. Definitely an eye candy match, but I won't fight it. We go to break and come back to Layla and Maria going at it in the ring and shortly after they begin to roll around on the mat. Where is Styles to scream catfight? Kelly gets the tag and Maria tags in Mickie as well. To be honest, I'm paying much more attention to Kelly's attire than the match itself. Eventually Layla and Kelly are in opposite corners sitting down while Mickie and Maria hit dual bronco busters. Suddenly Vince pulls a JBL and gets in the ring stopping the match saying he's in charge. He says that Santa is not coming to Iraq for all their boos and then Santa's music plays who is John Cena with his arm in a sling. After some talking he hits Vince with the FU. Solid segment. The match wasn't really anything I can rate.

Rey Mysterio vs. Mark Henry. Rey is mad over and Henry gets plenty of heat as expected. Your typical pushing around in the beginning and Rey avoiding the hits. Henry bullies Rey some more before Rey tries to fight back with kicks, only to receive a huge gorilla press for his trouble. Henry slows the pace (is it possible to be much slower than this!?) with a bear hug. Rey bites to get out but gets hit with a big clothesline for his trouble that looked pretty good. As bad as Henry is at times, 08 was a better year for him than this, that's for sure. A missed big splash followed by a kick and a springboard seated senton. Henry kicks out and Rey kicks him into the corner, going as far as hitting a sliding dropkick to Henry's... lower male parts. Rey then hits a 619 and spirngboards with a seated senton again. Rey hits a roll up and picks up the win. *3/4. Pretty bleh as expected but Rey actually is enjoyable for me in the ring so he kept it from being a total shitfest.

And finally, it's main event time. D-Generation X (Triple H and Shawn Michaels) vs. Umaga and Mr. Kennedy! I forgot how much I enjoyed Kennedy as a heel. People bag on him a lot but I still enjoy him quite a bit in the ring, in fact I'd say with the exception of HBK he was the standout of this match. HHH of course by now was on the same level he is today, good but to be honest, just quite boring.

Kennedy and Umaga begin to double team HBK and isolate him. Heel team 101, ladies and gents. Every time HBK begins to fight back Umaga cuts him back. I can't wait until both Kennedy and Umaga are back. Let's hope Kennedy stays injury free and Umaga can still go like he did before the surgery. One thing about Umaga is.. he relies on that nerve hold far too much. I mean it's okay and I guess fits his character but it gets tiresome. I prefer Orton's headlocks to his nerve hold.

Kennedy hits a big standing Greenbay Plunge but after a missed splash by Umaga HHH gets the tag and of course clears house. He decimates Kennedy/Umaga before finishing Kennedy with the pedigree sending the troops home happy. **1/4 for being enjoyable enough to hold my attention.


FINAL VERDICT: A solid show. Nothing terrible, but nothing above the good level I'd say. Surely a fun night for the troops and worth a watch if easily accessible but no matches worthy of going out of your way to see.
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I just watched this the other day and I pretty much agree with everything that you said. Keep it up Kenneh.
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lol I hate Tribute to the Troops. I've never watched it though.

Sounds like a pretty bad show to be honest. Good review though, hope to see a lot more.

I will be reviewing some shows myself soon, but I will make a seperate thread for each. >_>
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So you hate the tribute to the troops and you've never seen it? Makes a lot of sense.

I remember seeing some of the show. It's always just a fun show with no worries about storylines. Pretty underrated.
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So you hate the tribute to the troops and you've never seen it? Makes a lot of sense.

I remember seeing some of the show. It's always just a fun show with no worries about storylines. Pretty underrated.
I hate the idea of it, and even reading the results, you can tell it is of little worth.
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I hate the idea of it, and even reading the results, you can tell it is of little worth.
You hate the fact that the WWE is trying to entertain some soliders that have little to no entertainment while away from their families for long periods of time?
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Lol I can't stand his opinion on T2TT either.

Also for the record, I made this a bit early but I mostly made it because I'm getting a bunch of DVDs (ROH, FIP, TNA, and WWE) in the mail and plan on reviewing them.
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That's fine, but don't televise it.
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Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoe - Steel Cage Match

This was a pretty good match though at the same time, it was pretty much a glorified squash which just happened to be in a steel cage. Granted, it was one of the best squashes ever, but Joe just completely decimated Jay and Jay did a nasty blade job. The best part about this match was when Joe locked the cage door. Doors in cage matches ftL so that made me happy. A cool spot happened when Joe did the ole kick in the corner and broke part of the cage, then Mark Briscoe pulled at it and tried to pull Jay out. Later on Mark tried to get in, AJ showed up and hit the Styles Clash on the outside. Jay tried getting out and Joe hit the Musclebuster off the top for the win. Very good match though I've seen someone call it amazing which to be honest, I didn't feel that way. Very good-great though. Best squash I've seen. ****

Second City Saints (Ace Steel and CM Punk) vs. The Prophecy (Dan Maff and BJ Whitmer)

This match was just the definition of a fun hardcore spot match that at the same time sucked you in. So many great features and this match definitely made me a bigger Ace and Maff fan. Ace just dictated the pace in 70% of this match. One random part I loved is when Ace was going to suplex Whitmer on the barbed wire board and Maff moved the board to a huge array of boos. Punk takes a sick barbed wire spot through the table and later on Maff gets thrown through the rest of it. The only huge problem I seem to have with this match is the chair spot, where both teams take huge chair shots and stands. Maybe if they hit Punk/Ace once and they withstood it, that'd be fine. But 3+ shots is beyond overkill. Another big problem was Maff's overselling. People say HBK oversells? Maff is the master of overselling
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. Then after the ROH fans pull an ECW and throw all the chairs into the ring. Whitmer is on the top rope, Ace is on a ladder on the barricade but Punk saves Ace. Ace then puts Maff on the ladder and Punk climbs to the top rope. He dives with a splash that doesn't break the ladder but looks nasty regardless. The match ends with Ace doing the tombstone to Whitmer through the table. A sick match, insanely fun. ****1/4


MORE TO BE DONE

Jimmy Rave vs. CM Punk - Dog Collar Match

The match begins great with Rave attacking Punk from behind. So much hate between the two. Might I say, I feel as if the Dog Collar Match isn't used enough. Chain match too, though they're pretty identical. Punk is a bloody mess and it makes me miss his blonde hair. Rave gets so much heat and beats down Punk with his fists but Punk fights back soon with punches and kicks only to get a clothesline for his trouble. A lot of use of the chain including using it for an aided curb stomp which was pretty cool. Rave mocks AJ and attempts the "Rave Clash" but Punk gets out and hits a sick shining wizard. I wish he used that in the E but damn Helms
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Punk did an incredibly nasty blade job here, literally dark red. Oh man, Rave hits the spinning armdrag into the crossface aided also by the chain. Man, WWE could do so much of this to an audience that hasn't seen it. Rave goes for a running knee but Punk follows through with a single leg crab. Nana is causing trouble and Punk wants to get him but Rave uses the chain to do a low blow then hits the running knee. I'm loving this match.

Rave is going to do the Pepsi plunge to Punk! No! Punk hits a big backdrop off the top rope. Punk chants begin and Punk then hits a powerbomb on Rave who lands on the chain. Punk doesn't even look like Punk at times with his face so damn bloody. Punk hits another powerbomb. The feud being so personal makes this even better. Punk hits a third but Rave kicks out only for Punk to turn it into the anaconda vise! Rave's Embassy show up and Punk clears house but Rave is back up! No Punk hits the Pepsi Twist (not used enough in the E). Fast Eddie tries to hit a moonsault on Punk but hits Rave.

Tornado DDT on Mike Cruel using Rave to rebound. Nana runs in but it doesnt work. Then a woman who's name escapes me gets in and distracts him more. Rave then begins to beat Punk senseless with a chair and picks up the win. It was a great match no doubt. ****1/2
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