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Old 03-27-2008, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Quit cheering for me when I'm a heel!

Quit Cheering For Me When I'm A Heel!
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I was gonna write some more about commentators, but something came up that seemed more pressing. I will get back to commentators at some point, but I have A.d.d. and my interests fluctuate. I apologize to anyone who was waiting for more on commentators, but I believe my close personal lackey, the Disco Inferno is writing about Jim Lampley and Lennox Lewis, so that should hold you for a while.

I wrote a blog on my website
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recently about fans cheering heels. I was making a distinction that when Im a heel I would rather be booed and that booing is proper etiquette. Some of the fans on my website were bothered and somewhat alarmed by that and thought I was saying that they were wrong for doing what they want, cheering me. That somehow, I was for censoring, something I am unequivocally against. I decided therefore, to address this but in a somewhat larger forum. First I want to mention that true heels want to be booed. There are those workers who want adulation, but arent good enough to get over as babyfaces and become heels playing to the crowd. They are a pox on our business, but that is unimportant. We arent talking about those morons today. Those idiots will have their day in court, and the best part is they have no idea who they are. By virtue of what they are doing, unless they are incredibly self aware, they dont even realize their own behavior because that would mean admitting they arent over, which to them they is nonsense, because they are being cheered. They must be over. Unfortunately, their job is to get booed. If you are a heel who is cheered by a small percentage of fans and yet you try to get booed, you are doing your job and there isnt much you can do about it.

For the people who missed my point about booing and cheering heels. Maybe I didnt make my point clear. Maybe you werent paying attention. Maybe I did a shit-ass job of making a point. Maybe you had your collective heads up your collective asses. Maybe Im a dum-dum and I need gum-gum, or maybe, just maybe, we all took hallucinogens in the 60's like in that movie Blue Sunshine, and turned into zombie f***s 10 years later. Maybe. Did anyone ever see that movie? That is the only reason I never took acid and thank Yahweh for that. Like I really needed one more drug to screw up my childhood addled brain. If only I had seen Requiem for a Dream twenty years earlier, even though it hadnt been made yet, because maybe I wouldnt have taken half the stupid shit I took. It should be required watching at all rehabs, even Lilo's and Brit-Brit's. That and the movie The Boost, with James Woods, and Sean Young; what a creepy pair those two were/are. Most other movies made me want to take more, those two made me want to quit, and Blue Sunshine kept me from ever taking acid. Interesting.

I believe my A.d.d. sidebar is done. I like sidebars, A.d.d. influenced or not, because that is how people, or at least the Boss(me), thinks. Someday I will make a drawing, and probably not a particularly good one, because I cant draw very well, but I do draw with passion(like that means dick when you cant even draw stick figures), of how my brain functions. It will be very enlightening, I promise. Well it wont be that enlightening, but it should be kinda funny and bizarre and thats always kinda interesting . . . sort of.

Anyway, my point was basically that if you just truly love certain heels and want to cheer them, that is your perogative, just like it was Britney's perogative to rape and pillage, and then vomit all over Bobby Brown's original version of his breakout anthem, "My Perogative". Im all about freedom of choice, in fact Im totally pro-choice. See how I sneakily slid in my view on Roe vs. Wade. The problem is, is that that isnt why most people are doing it. Ladies and germs, this is my point. Most people are doing it to get themselves over, and using the stars as excuses. If you are doing it to be cool, you arent. If you are doing it to be disruptive, unfortunately you are, and if you are doing it to annoy the other fans, regrettably, you are right on your game plan, except, it really isnt cool, and some guy with an afro should spit an apple on you, or perhaps, a berry, or a melon . . . . depending on what's in season.

Look, if you really love a heel, or think that little of a baby face, thats fine, do what you want. You spent your money, have as good a time as you want. I have absolutely nothing against that. Nothing. Nothing at all. That why I said it three times. In fact as long as you are having a great time and getting your money's worth, do whatever you want as long as you dont ruin someone else's good time. Cheer, boo, stand-up, clap, do a wave, blow a kazoo, blow an air horn, blow the guy you came with in the parking lot, throw streamers, I like streamers, especially when Im a babyface. Streamers are fun. How come no one throws me streamers. I want streamers. Booooooooo, you suck. Non-streamer throwing bastards. Look, whatever it is that floats your boat, get your boat floating and have a good time.
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Somewhere in the ADD ridden post is the following (and something I believe as well):


Cheering a heel because you like them will actually hurt them. They are told to be a heel (aka to get booed), but when you cheer to show "Support" you're making them look bad. So if you really do love a heel, boo as loudly as you can. This is especially important for midcarders. The louder the reactions the more the people in the back will begin to think "Maybe we should push ___, he's been getting constant heat". Meanwhile though, if you hate a face, booing while isn't as good as cheering, does still help him. If you hate a face, give them the silent treatment. That will hurt them much more than booing.
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Very, very good points by Jim following up on an excellent column by Raven.

I think it's kind of difficult for us as wrestling fans to boo a heel that we actually like. It's kinda natural to cheer for someone if you like them, regardless of their alignment. But Raven's comment about etiquette makes sense. If you truly like a heel wrestler, booing him at the top of your lungs will help him a lot more in his role rather than cheering him. Well, unless you want him to turn face. Still, booing is the way to go.

But hey, nobody said you can't smile while doing it.
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Booing a heel you like is really something that was hurt once kayfabe died. You have wrestlers like Rick Rude who you would love to boo. Without knowing it, you showed more support of heels that you liked than ones you didn't care for. However, now that we knows that it's not "real", we have problems booing someone we like.
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Booing a heel you like is really something that was hurt once kayfabe died. You have wrestlers like Rick Rude who you would love to boo. Without knowing it, you showed more support of heels that you liked than ones you didn't care for. However, now that we knows that it's not "real", we have problems booing someone we like.
And wrestling has to evolve to get around this problem. Nowadays heels and faces are often less pronounced than in previous eras, and I expect this to continue in the future. Cena is extremely controversial because he gets a lot of negative reactions despite being pushed as the top face. A lot of the time the fans cheer the heels over him. There will come a time when WWE will just have to let the fans decide who they want to cheer and boo, and not make it so obvious who is the good guy and who is the bad guy. I think faces and heels are still important, but I do like it when a lot of guys are tweeners, not necessarily a face or heel. At the moment we still have fairly over the top heels like Edge, and Orton (when he was kicking people in the head, but not really anymore). I think heels and faces are still very important, and I don't mind over the top heels, but I think they will die out, because they often get positive reactions. Cena is showing that in this era, a lot of fans don't care for the 'do no wrong babyface', and I think heels and faces won't be so clear cut in the future.
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