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Thanks and you make some good points. I loved V1 days. Just for the Matt-Facts.
Did Bam Bam have more potential to be a bigger star in WWE/WCW (granted he main evented a Mania but I mean to be a long time main eventer)?
What would you like to be done to ECW to make it more unique as a brand and to have it's own identity? (Though you could argue it already has it's own identity...) and would you like to see anyone called up to the show? Anyone from other shows you feel would fit in with the current roster?
Oh yes, one more. Do you think Helms will be successful when fully recovered on ECW?
Did Bam Bam have more potential to be a bigger star in WWE/WCW (granted he main evented a Mania but I mean to be a long time main eventer)?
Had it not been for the knee surgery and Honky not refusing to job to Savage, Bigelow probably would of been a main eventer while Hogan was shooting No Holds Barred in 1988. Bigelow was supposed to become a main eventer in 1995 as a face, but supposedly the Clique put an end to that. Which is why Bigelow eventually quit the WWE and had issues with them. Bigelow had the size and skill to work some main events. I know Bigelow/Diesel matches would of been better than most 1995 main event matches.
For WCW, yeah, he was good, but there were far more deserving wrestlers to be pushed to the main event at the time than Bammer.
What would you like to be done to ECW to make it more unique as a brand and to have it's own identity? (Though you could argue it already has it's own identity...) and would you like to see anyone called up to the show? Anyone from other shows you feel would fit in with the current roster?
I'm kinda a fan of the current ECW. So I don't have much to offer. I suppose have Jamie Noble (Is he Raw or ECW? He seems to be unsure of it), William Regal and The Brian Kendrick come over. Meanwhile, get rid of Henry. Otherwise, I'm pretty pleased with how ECW is being booked. With Smith now on ECW, I can't think of anyone from FCW I want to see called up at the moment that's not injured.
Oh yes, one more. Do you think Helms will be successful when fully recovered on ECW?
I'm not sure. With Finlay, Cage and Bourne, is there really a spot for another face to be heavily featured? I suppose Helms could put on a few good matches with Birchill, but I don't feel he can really do anything of value until one of the above three turns heel or leaves ECW.
I think I've said this before but.. it seems like WWE is trying to evolve once again, but more so, change what kind of style they present. With Kofi, Morrison, Punk, Bourne, Kidd, all showcased frequently, some even getting pushed, along with more match time and seemingly more stiff/high flying action, do you think they are indeed trying to change/evolve their product? Or until they're definitely pushed is it just too early to judge?
I think I've said this before but.. it seems like WWE is trying to evolve once again, but more so, change what kind of style they present. With Kofi, Morrison, Punk, Bourne, Kidd, all showcased frequently, some even getting pushed, along with more match time and seemingly more stiff/high flying action, do you think they are indeed trying to change/evolve their product? Or until they're definitely pushed is it just too early to judge?
I wouldn't say so. Since Vince took over the WWE in the mid 80's, he has pushed the high flying style regularly. There were plenty of down periods depending on who was on the roster, but they never totally stopped. The 80's had Dynamite Kid, the Rougeau Brothers, Tito Santana and the Blue Blazer. The early 90's had The Rockers, The 1-2-3 Kid and Owen Hart. The Attitude Era had Chris Jericho, the Hardyz and Val Venis. The creation of ECW has helped increase the spotlight of these high fliers though. Out of the five that you named, all of them spent time on the brand. As far as stiffer goes, the rise of MMA has seen an increase of that as well. However, we still had the likes of Dynamite Kid and Tajiri using stiff shots in their matches.
Yeah but to be fair, Dynamite Kid was in the tag ranks and Tajiri was usually a low carder occasionally mid carder. While Punk is a main event wrestle, Kofi at times is Upper mid card, as is Bourne and Morrison. It just seems to me like the WWE used to not be as apt to push these kind of wrestlers and now are doing so. Eh I could be wrong.
If Matt/Jeff have a feud ended with Matt going over, what kind of match would you like it to be done with and how would you like to see the feud finalized?
Yeah but to be fair, Dynamite Kid was in the tag ranks and Tajiri was usually a low carder occasionally mid carder. While Punk is a main event wrestle, Kofi at times is Upper mid card, as is Bourne and Morrison. It just seems to me like the WWE used to not be as apt to push these kind of wrestlers and now are doing so. Eh I could be wrong.
Dynamite was just a tag team wrestler, but he was a tag team wrestler when being a tag team meant something. He still mixed it up with big names such as Honky Tonk Man, Randy Savage and Andre the Giant. Not to mention the Bulldogs were regularly given the most time for matches. Same deal with Tajiri. Even though he wasn't a main eventer, he still faced major names and got in some good offense against bigger names such as Mysterio and Batista.
As far as Bourne and Morrison being upper midcarders, you're kidding me right? Bourne is only an upper midcarder if you go by ECW roster only. When there's only a dozen or so wrestlers, you're automatically an upper midcarder if you're booked on a weekly basis. However, when you compare him with the entire WWE roster, he's barely a midcarder. Morrison is a midcarder at best as well. And Punk is a main eventer? Of what? *He's* an upper midcarder. Curtain jerking with Umaga is hardly a sign of being a main eventer.
If Matt/Jeff have a feud ended with Matt going over, what kind of match would you like it to be done with and how would you like to see the feud finalized?
I think the obvious match would be a ladder or TLC match. With both wrestlers best known for their ladder matches, there's not a better way to end it then with the cold hard steel of a ladder. To end it, I'd just have Matt perform some huge bump to Jeff from the top of a ladder (Through a table?) and then pull down the object to win the match (Idk...a World Title contract?) Then have Jeff stay off of TV for a few months to sell the bump. Meanwhile, have Matt gloat about being the better Hardy. However, unless Jeff does leave the WWE, it wouldn't make sense having Matt win a feud when it's still a long shot he'd be a main eventer, while Jeff is an upper midcarder/low main eventer.
He's not a real main eventer yet, but he's not far from it either based off how he's booked on Smackdown. I will say that it seems as if Smackdown bookers and PPV bookers are different people as on SD they make him look like a star and on PPV they make him look like a mid carder.
He's not a real main eventer yet, but he's not far from it either based off how he's booked on Smackdown. I will say that it seems as if Smackdown bookers and PPV bookers are different people as on SD they make him look like a star and on PPV they make him look like a mid carder.
And Cena opened what...one PPV since winning the WWE title at WM 21? Punk still struggles to get on PPV from time to time.
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