King Steventon

This could be an interesting one.

Someone get the ball rolling.

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KenTheKiller

Matt Hardy by a fair bit.

Jeff ranges from terrible to almost decent on the mic, while Matt typically ranges from decent to good. Jeff is a good ragdoll but his offense is usually pretty weak while Matt's offense is usually crisp and entertaining. Jeff is more over but Matt is still quite over.

Neither is too great and at times, Matt is a bit dull (more has to do with character I guess) but Matt is on more than he is off and usually good for a good match. Hell, he got a better match with Kozlov than HHH, and only a month later.

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I would have said Jeff at one stage, because I used to find Matt really boring and thought Jeff was entertaining and underrated. Hell, Jeff still is ridiculously underrated by a lot of jokers on the internet who throw around terms like "worst wrestler ever". Jeff is not even close to being the worst wrestler ever, or the worst wrestler to hold a World Championship. However, I prefer Matt now because I think when competing in World Title matches, Jeff's flaws and limitations have really been exposed. When you have to book a ladder match or TLC every few months just to accommodate his gimmick and allow him to put on an interesting match by being a stuntman, you have a problem. Despite all the ridiculous spotfests with no psychology, I do think Jeff IS more than a stuntman. He is great in the gutsy underdog role, really fun to watch getting thrown around (see Umaga feud, Taker ladder match) and is capable of putting on very good matches without a ladder or cage (Umaga GAB). However, at the same time he is very very limited, and his work this year has been very sloppy at times. This is a guy who actually managed to put on a bad match with Jericho, and unlike others, I didn't really enjoy any of the Punk/Hardy matches until the cage on Smackdown.

Matt Hardy on the other hand is overrated by some and underrated by others. Like Jeff, there are always going to be losers saying he is terrible. This is one of the things which makes this debate so tiresome. There are people on either side who just don't think logically and say the other Hardy is "terrible" or even "the worst wrestler ever". It gets annoying. Matt is a solid wrestler, in fact, he is a very good wrestler. He is also very over, and is good both as a face and a heel. He has more charisma than some give him credit for, and unlike Jeff, you can rely on Matt to at least produce something decent every time he goes out there. I'd say that's the big difference: Consistancy.

So while Jeff is better than a lot of haters give him credit for, he is still very limited and relies on his spots far too much, while Matt is a consistently good wrestler.

Oh and on the mic Jeff is an abomination whereas Matt is decent.

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Roxy

Matt or Jeff, Matt or Jeff. For decades the human race has wondered who is the better Hardy. And my answer is......Jeff. Both Matt and Jeff have their pros and cons, and whilst Jeff isn't exactly crisp in the ring, i've always felt that the 'sloppiness' was part of his style. When he climbs the rope or goes for a move, he's not doing it to look flashy, it's more like 'So, i'm gonna throw myself at you and knock you the fuck out, even if it kills me'. Jeff isn't going for technical points, style points, or a nice execution, and that's what the fans love about him. Matt's also a solid wrestler, cleanly cut, and has a good technical prowess about him, he just doesn't have that that edge where he can get the crowd to boo a man by a a single hand gesture. Entertainment wise, Jeffs win that too. Now you could throw the spots argument into it (or say personal preference but majority rules) and say Matt doesn't really do them, but spots are what Jeff gets paid to do, right? That's what the fans like about him, so why forget what got you into the club in the first place? His 'spots' got him to the title picture, to the main event, why quit doing them when those spots, that style, satisfies over 90% of the fans?

On the other hand, Matt's better on the mic, he can work both face and heel, he's over, he has charisma, he can go to the top rope when you need him to. Near enough everything there bar the heel, mic skills points, can be said about Jeff. Both Hardyz have had their memorable matches, Matt having a sensational match with Edge at Unforgiven in the Steel Cage (which just happens to me my favorite Cage match ever), then Jeff having the alluring match at Armageddon, where he finally 'captured' the brass ring; I could go on but both Hardyz have had some great matches. Back in the tag days, it use to be you liked one Hardy, or the other, and whilst Matt hasn't had the better singles career, I don't think you can use that as an excuse as to why he isn't as good; it's not his fault he isn't booked correctly. Jeff on the other hand has always had booking on his side, maybe it's because he's more charismatic, he's more over, but Matt when he was face, and i'm sure even now, i'd say is still within the list of the top 15 most over wrestlers in the company, despite not ever having incredible booking. I don't know how anybody can say that people don't care about him, I mean fuck, he tried to kill his younger brother not long ago, and look at the reactions he gets now, just on Smackdown last week, he tore the roof off the building.

Jeff has a descent bundle of moves, and he can put on a solid match with them; he can whip out a submission if needs to, he can use the mat, he can use technical offense, people need to get the '02 Jeff out of their mind because he's gone, but not forgotton. Jeffs biggest flaw though is his mic skills, not only do I cringe when I hear him speak, I feel like going into my knife draw, grabbing the sharpest thing in there, and chopping Jeffs tongue off. He should really just keep to the 'actions speak louder than words' thing, and not touch a mic ever again. I've also always thought Matt had a plain vanilla side to him as well, not so much anymore come to think of it, but in the ring, i'd take Jeff over him anyday. That's probably personal preference though, I saw Matt in November in Manchester and got to watch his bout with Finlay, and it was one of the best Matt Hardy matches i've seen, granted being there threw in why I like it, but Matt really interacted with the crowd that night, and that's something I feel he needs to do more often.

All that being said, none of the Hardyz are terrible, none of them suck, but at the end of the day, Jeff's more charismatic, he's better in the ring, he's more over, and i'd even go to say he has a better sense of in-ring psychology, not to mention his selling ability is fantastic at times; his bouts with Umaga back that up. Matts amazing too, he has mic skills, he does have charisma, he always has a good match, but he doesn't have the 'it' factor which makes him better, but he isn't losing by much. Who knows, with Jeff now being gone, Matt could get a chance to shine and really pull one over on the crowd. When it all boils down, Matt is better than Jeff in some aspects, and vice versa, both are entertaining to watch, and if you don't like Jeff because you're not into high flying/spots, you've got Matt, and if you don't like the more technical/grounding style, then you've got Jeff. But heck if you like both, then as Hannah Montana would say, you get the best of both worlds.

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King Steventon

Good post Roxy.

When has Jeff ever used a submission or gone to the mat though?

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Roxy

He pulled out the sharpshooter not long ago, it might have been Judgemenday Day against Edge, he's used it more than once though. He's also thrown out a reverse figure four against Matt, during the 'I Quit' match. He doesn't use submissions often, very rarely, but he can do them. As for Mat skills, i've never seen him use them consistantly in WWE, but during the earlier days of his career, during OMEGA, he often used Mat based wrestling, I don't think my point is vaild though come to think of it, he's hardly gone to the Mat whilst in WWE, but he has done it, i'm just having a hard time thinking of some matches. Matt's obviously the better Mat wrestler though, Jeff can do it, which was what I was basing it off, but for some reason he doesn't.

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The Postman

I did type a long answer to this, but my fucking computer lost it.

Long story short then, Matt over Jeff, based on their entire careers, Jeff over Matt based on the last year.

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Tommy Platinum

Because Matt's been out you mean? lol

Jeff has been sloppy as hell in 2009. When you can't put on a good match with Jericho, you're pretty bad imo. He's still underrated by some, but I've not enjoyed too much of his stuff this year.

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King Steventon

When was the bad Jericho match? I remember one Jericho/Hardy match from before Judgment Day(?) that was quite good.

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Tommy Platinum

It was on Smackdown. Not sure about before Judgment Day, I remember it being more recently than that. Maybe they had more than one?

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