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Really? because I've seen plenty of people make the Stephanie argument and claim that HHH would have never risen above the midcard without her.. which..while laughable.. is a debate that many people have tried to have.
Whatevs.
Yeah maybe some idiots think that, but as Ken said, it usually develops into the argument that he's simply prolonged his main event run through Steph. He was already a main eventer when he married Steph, and his work in 2000 and 2001 proved that he was there on merit, so most people recognise that she wasn't behind the push.
"A few weeks prior to signing with WCW, I witnessed Hogan wrestle Flair on Nitro. Now strictly from a fan perspective, it was very hard to watch. What I witnessed that night was two legends that were shells of their former selves still trying to do it. Watching Hogan & Flair that night just wasn't right. In my opinion the bookers were just exploiting them to try to pop a number. It was a desperate situation and that's exactly the way it came across on TV."
- Vince Russo, Rope Opera
Tom says:
Are you saying you would watch Punk fuck a bald chick in a porno?
Ken says:
I'm saying I'd watch Punk alone in a porno.
Yeah maybe some idiots think that, but as Ken said, it usually develops into the argument that he's simply prolonged his main event run through Steph. He was already a main eventer when he married Steph, and his work in 2000 and 2001 proved that he was there on merit, so most people recognise that she wasn't behind the push.
Something that always gets bought up in debates, is when he started dating Stephanie. He married her, but how long was he with her prior that, ect, ect. It's a debate I tend to stay away from, but i've seen it occur a couple of times. People say he was a main eventer before he married Steph, and then the other people say, perhaps, but he was with her some time before they even got married and that had something to do with his pushes.
I think that's how it goes anyway, sorry if I worded it confusingly, i've got what I want to say in my head, I just don't know how to word it, lol. Hopefully you get what I mean.
There is one mentioned in this thread that I really hate seeing, it is when blind TNA marks reckon that TNA features more and better wrestling then the WWE. Despite having a semi valid point, it is just not true.
Other then that, there are a few others mentioned in this thread that I hate seeing.
Pretty much all of them have been mentioned really.
- The HHH hate debate is the big one that gets me the most though. Do we really need to bring him up in every thread & talk about how much you hate him?
- Cena Only has 4 moves & Cena is superman. Srs were not in 2007 anymore
- The Attitude Era was better. the attitude era is dead & gone. Leave it that way please.
- The PG era will ruin the WWE. Stupid tbh as the WWE will continue to make a shitload of money.
- Divas Matches are piss breaks, Divas can't wrestle & All divas botch. How can you say that when you turn over the channel whenever a divas match comes on? srsly?
Pretty much all of them have been mentioned really.
- The HHH hate debate is the big one that gets me the most though. Do we really need to bring him up in every thread & talk about how much you hate him?
- Cena Only has 4 moves & Cena is superman. Srs were not in 2007 anymore
- The Attitude Era was better. the attitude era is dead & gone. Leave it that way please.
- The PG era will ruin the WWE. Stupid tbh as the WWE will continue to make a shitload of money.
- Divas Matches are piss breaks, Divas can't wrestle & All divas botch. How can you say that when you turn over the channel whenever a divas match comes on? srsly?
There really isn't one debate that I'm sick of hearing. The only time I do grow tired of a debate is when it's brought up a lot in topics. For example, I don't care how much people are high on John Morrison, debates on how good he is annoys me a lot. I've grown to expect to see a new Morrison thread (Same exact topic) every other week.
Yeah the whole WWE V TNA thin is another debate that comes up a lot in the IWC. Pointless argument really. A couple of others i remembered.
- Should Benoit be inducted into the hall of fame. Whether he deserves it or not it will never happen so might as well leave it be.
- Rock Sold out & Left the WWE for the money. He done everything he needed to do in the WWE & tbh who wouldn't want to go to a job where they can earn more money while putting your body through a hell of a lot less pain.
- The Whole Montreal Screwjob thing. It happen 12 years ago. Leave it now people.
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