King Steventon

But.... Austin did have a moveset, c+p from wiki:

• Finishing and signature moves
  • As "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
    • Stone Cold Stunner (
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      , usually preceded with a kick to the opponent's midsection)
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      to an opponent draped over the second rope
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    • Mudhole Stomp (
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      to the chest of a seated opponent in a corner, followed by the
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      to the opponent and finished with a final stomp)
    • Multiple
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      variations
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      , sometimes from the
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      to the opponent's groin
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      followed by multiple
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Looks like moveset to me...

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Toaster Oven

Internet killed wrestling

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Slim

So very true.

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King Steventon

The internet saved wrestling if anything...

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Toaster Oven

It was more a simultaneous effect. While in the short term it saved it, in the long run, it's probably done more harm then good when it comes to overall feel of the product

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King Steventon

The internet has no effect on the feel of the product. If you are refering to spoilerz and whatnot, that comes down to the indiviual, not the internet...

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horrorfan_1986

First, no one is disrespecting you. We just don't agree with your opinion.

Second, you can't really compare Bruno Sammartino with anyone from the Attitude Era. Bruno wrestled in an era where promos weren't that important. That's why Billy Graham is labeled as such a great talker. He was great in an era where most wrestlers couldn't cut anything decent.

Third, Steve Austin at one time was one of the better wrestlers in America. His matches with Ricky Steamboat were great and it wasn't a carry job by Steamboat. His neck injury in 1997 fucked all that up and he was forced to be a brawler only. However, with matches with The Rock and Chris Benoit showed that he could still put on a great match, just different from what he used to be able to do.

Fourth, the Attitude Era didn't have anything to do with pure wrestlers being pushed down the ladder. If that was true, wrestlers like The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H, Val Venis, Mick Foley, The Hardys, Edge and Kurt Angle wouldn't have been pushed. While it is true that being a World Champion meant you had to have more charisma than raw in-ring talent, it had been that way ever since promos became a more regular event. When you have wrestlers go on such shows as Live with Regis and Kathy Lee, Arsenio Hall and other talk shows, you need them to be able to talk well. You can go all the way back to the early 80's to when Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman were on Late Night with David Letterman. Memphis and Letterman wouldn't have had anyone be on the show other than people who could talk. Earlier wrestlers were flat out not on these kinds of shows. When you go on one of these shows, you're drawing more attention to your wrestling program which means more money. Especially now with how often wrestlers goes around the media circuit, you need to be able to talk well otherwise they wouldn't have you on the show. And what happens if you're not on the show? Your program doesn't bring in as much money. In addition to that, there's no reason why a show would have a low carder on the show. They want the guy who will be in the big matches which is yet another reason why charisma and mic skills are favored over pure wrestling skills. All the Attitude Era did for this was draw attention back towards wrestling for the first time since the mid 80's. Do I really need to remind you what more attention results in?

Finally, my name was changed from horrorfan_1986 to this earlier in the month. The guy with the silver name is the real Steventon. You can just refer to me as Jim.

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Caesar

The Internet reports so much BULLSHIT, of course it has a negative effect on the overall sport. They're like all these celebrity gossip blogs. Considering how much most of the wrestling industry hates the Internet "news" sites, it's amazing to me how they all claim to have "inside info" on stuff. Ever notice how 99% of these sites are all run by the same people (Matthew Boone?), the recycle the same crap over and over again (they'll write the same story, 9 different ways over the course of a week), or they just post snippets from PWI or The Observer?

And watch Austin vs Bret and tell me Austin has no moves.

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The Bad Guy

Ok so tell me something special about Austin's in ring skills other than Punches & Kicks?

horrorfan_1986

Wrestling isn't about MOVEZ~! One of my favorite matches from the 80's was Jerry Lawler vs Kerry Von Erich from Superclash III. It's a match where punches are used more than anything else. Yet the drama and suspense of it was what made the match great. I think most people here would admit that Austin lost a few steps after his neck injury. However, even after the injury, he still put on classics such as:

vs Shawn Michaels - WM 14
vs Dude Love - Unforgiven 1998
vs Dude Love - Over the Edge 1998
vs The Undertaker - Summerslam 1998
vs The Rock - WM 15
vs The Rock - Backlash 1999
vs Triple H - No Way Out 2001
vs The Rock - Wrestlemania 17
w/Triple H vs Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho - Raw 2001
vs Chris Benoit - Smackdown 2001
vs Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit - King of the Ring 2001
vs Kurt Angle - Summerslam 2001
vs The Rock - Wrestlemania 19

With the exception of 2000 (Which he only wrestled for a couple of months at the end) and 2002 (Off year and then left), he's had at least one MOTYC for every year since his neck injury.

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