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That may be true, but no one acknowledged the fact that the World Title didn't change hands. There had only been six Summerslam's before 1994 and only three of them had WWE title matches. If anything, with what they did, having Owen as the challenger made him the favorite. While Owen already defeated Bret at Mania, Owen won three matches at KOTR while Bret was set to cleanly lose to IC champion, Diesel before the DQ by Neidhart. Looking back at the history of SS, you had the IC title change hands five out of the six previous SS's. Meanwhile, the tag team titles changed hands twice in five defenses. Finally, there's the Million Dollar Title that changed hands at Summerslam. Summerslam had been built up as a PPV where a new champion is crowned.
Are you sure it was hyped as the blow off match? I know their Action Zone match (Taking place a month later) was hyped as the blow off match. It doesn't make much sense to me to have two blow off matches in a matter of a month.
The early Summerslams were built up as an event where new mid-card champions were crowned. Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, British Bulldog, Kerry Von Erich, Trips.
By the time the Action Zone match rolled around, that feud was considered over, and for Owen to win the Championship after having not been able to win in something as spectacular as that Cage Match would've came off as anti-climatic. In fact, that Cage Match solidified that Owen would never beat Bret Hart in any sort of match, which dims any main event heel heat he generated prior to it.
The best time for him to win it, would've been King of the Ring '94 because the moment Bret stepped in there with Owen, especially so soon after Wrestlemania, everyone would've thought it was a foregone conclusion that Bret was going to have a successful title defense. Swerve the crowd, and have Owen win the championship via Neidhart, Have Bulldog appear sooner, and "train" Bret, then make the announcement that the rematch is in the Cage, Undertaker vs. Undertaker isn't be the last match on the card.
The early Summerslams were built up as an event where new mid-card champions were crowned. Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, British Bulldog, Kerry Von Erich, Trips.
By the time the Action Zone match rolled around, that feud was considered over, and for Owen to win the Championship after having not been able to win in something as spectacular as that Cage Match would've came off as anti-climatic. In fact, that Cage Match solidified that Owen would never beat Bret Hart in any sort of match, which dims any main event heel heat he generated prior to it.
The best time for him to win it, would've been King of the Ring '94 because the moment Bret stepped in there with Owen, especially so soon after Wrestlemania, everyone would've thought it was a foregone conclusion that Bret was going to have a successful title defense. Swerve the crowd, and have Owen win the championship via Neidhart, Have Bulldog appear sooner, and "train" Bret, then make the announcement that the rematch is in the Cage, Undertaker vs. Undertaker isn't be the last match on the card.
The feud wasn't over, if anything, it was just beginning with Davey Boy Smith being added to the mix and Neidhart having a bigger role in it all. After Summerslam, there were several tag matches with the four.
More than anything, Bret needed a nice long reign to solidify his spot as the leader of the WWE. With how the WWE dropped the ball with him in 1993, he didn't have the full fledged main event feel to him. It was the long title reign in 1994 that did just that. Having Owen break it up in the middle would of hurt the significance of it all.
If I had my way, the Action Zone match would of been a non-title match. So that by time the third PPV match comes at Survivor Series, the series is split 1-1. Even with Owen losing the cage match, he still beat Bret on his biggest night and won the King of the Ring.
I just feel as if Owen winning the KOTR was such a necessary achievement that without it, he wouldn't have been the same. It was the KOTR the previous year that helped keep Bret strong in a situation that should of hurt him. For Owen, it would of been the same only with the twist of Owen doing everything Bret did, but better.
Truth be told, Diesel needed that KOTR match more than Owen did. Nash going out there and just dominating the champion opened up a lot of eyes and really provided the build up that Nash needed to eventually win the title at the end of the year.
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The feud wasn't over, if anything, it was just beginning with Davey Boy Smith being added to the mix and Neidhart having a bigger role in it all. After Summerslam, there were several tag matches with the four.
More than anything, Bret needed a nice long reign to solidify his spot as the leader of the WWE. With how the WWE dropped the ball with him in 1993, he didn't have the full fledged main event feel to him. It was the long title reign in 1994 that did just that. Having Owen break it up in the middle would of hurt the significance of it all.
If I had my way, the Action Zone match would of been a non-title match. So that by time the third PPV match comes at Survivor Series, the series is split 1-1. Even with Owen losing the cage match, he still beat Bret on his biggest night and won the King of the Ring.
I just feel as if Owen winning the KOTR was such a necessary achievement that without it, he wouldn't have been the same. It was the KOTR the previous year that helped keep Bret strong in a situation that should of hurt him. For Owen, it would of been the same only with the twist of Owen doing everything Bret did, but better.
Truth be told, Diesel needed that KOTR match more than Owen did. Nash going out there and just dominating the champion opened up a lot of eyes and really provided the build up that Nash needed to eventually win the title at the end of the year.
If Owen would've won the WWF Championship, he wouldn't have needed the prestige of being crowned King of the Ring. Besides the King of the Ring doesn't necessarily lead to greatness (Mabel/Viscera, Billy Gunn, anyone?) Guys like Shawn Michaels, Undertaker and The Rock didn't need the KOTR, and became WWF Champions. Owen would've been in that number.
If Owen would've won the WWF Championship, he wouldn't have needed the prestige of being crowned King of the Ring. Besides the King of the Ring doesn't necessarily lead to greatness (Mabel/Viscera, Billy Gunn, anyone?) Guys like Shawn Michaels, Undertaker and The Rock didn't need the KOTR, and became WWF Champions. Owen would've been in that number.
Owen needed an extra boost though. Up until the KOTR, all he ever did was get a win over Bret that could of been consider a fluke victory. Having him win KOTR was a way of legitimizing him more. Guys like Shawn Michaels had title reigns, Taker had the early title reign and being unbeaten for years and The Rock had IC title reigns. Owen didn't have any of that. It was just a few months before Wrestlemania that Owen was still considered a jobber.
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Or... not have Diesel win it at all? Surely that would have been an option? I'm not sure, I may need to look over stuff from that time I'm pretty sure that would have been an option.
Otherwise, yeah I agree. I always thought it was odd how they had Owen go over Bret the same night Bret won the title but it never lead to Owen winning the title.
Yeah, but imagine KEvin Nash not getting that well-deserved step up at the time. Where whould the Kliq be? The nWo?
How about Mr. Backlund not getting that title reign and Owen tromping Diesel. It would have continued the terrific Hart feud. I couldn't see Own win KOTR at that time.
Hart should have won KOTR when Mabel won in 1995. He really wasn't doing anything at that time with Yokozuna.
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Its a shame how things happen. Yeah it would have been sweet for them to feud over the belt, Owens King of Harts gimmick was meant to be pretty bad ass, and those two could draw a crowd no doubt to watch them wrestle. Shame.
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